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Unread postPosted: November 5th, 2011, 8:25 pm 
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I know big changes can't happen overnight .
For instance:
Changing our energy usage away from non renewable resources or polluting resources will not be changed in a few years but will take decades .
I'd like to see UBC and other Universities work together to help get things moving along and have the government of Canada step up with the US to get things moving along in a joint effort to get Canada and US away from the energy system we use today Oil , Coal , Nuclear .
It's not always about Clean energy.
Nuclear energy might be a clean energy while the system is working within specs , but its not so clean when things go very wrong , and damages the environment for centuries.
Here's something I found .
Years ago in grade school , in science class we learned about the separation of hydrogen and oxygen from water by placing a couple plates in water attached to a battery. The teacher demonstrated that the resulting gas hydrogen would ignite . That stuck with me and I always wondered who or when someone would make use that and do something about it . Well seems like a few people have been ,
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/meyerswatercell.htm
http://www.xogen.ca/
http://www.blacklightpower.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXo7CVFI5Sk

Putting aside the need for Large Short Term Profits (1-25 years = short term profits) and adapting a Long Term Sustainable Profit System (250-500 years = Long Term Sustainable Profit System ) This might sound ridiculous thinking about such long term sustainable profits, but my thinking isn't for the short term gain that are pushed on CEO's ect to show there corporations that they are doing there jobs.
The World population has doubled since I was born in the 1960's and will double again be for I'm dead . From what i read last we have about a 50-60 years supply of Oil ! Its not about us here and now , Its about what we leave for the future after we are gone. I would like to know that there will be Massive Parks with 1000 year old trees and water running in a stream that you can drink from and fish out of .

Again this brings up short term profits the logging industry a 1000 year old tree is worth more per square foot then several smaller trees .
Its more expensive to do a selective logging then clear cutting but there for cuts into the short term profits of the big companies .
I don't like it when the government goes behind closed doors to negotiate what best for the population without the populations input or to negotiate again for short term gains on selling out or leasing out natural resources , wood ,water, land ,energy ,mining,transportation ,health,ect.

The Unions are all about Jobs ,the corporations are all about Profits , The government plays both fields in a juggling act with the population ,all are about money.For the most part about short term profits . You can cut down all the trees and drill all the oil wells and mine all the minerals in your lifetime and provide your family with a roof over there heads and food on the table till the day you die knowing your they have taken care of your family the best you could . You could show your profits for your company has had a steady increase since the day you started till the day you retire . You can show that your government provided jobs and revenue till the next election .This to me is a short term outlook for the future of a Family Corporation or Government.

I'd like to look beyond the short term of things ,its not sustainable for the long term. 250 years isn't that far away .We can't continue to exploit resources for the short term profit . The world population is going to double be for I die , and thats less then 50 years from now. At the rate things are going we will be at WW3 fighting over Oil , Water . Land , and any other resource we need to survive in less then 100 years . Ive lived with that nightmare since I was a child having a fear in my gut and my nightmares that I would see Humanity kill itself off because of an addiction to greed , power , control instead of an understanding of long term balance of Jobs, profit , environment , population sustainability beyond the next millennium.

Maybe we need a World War to set things straight a decrease of the population of humanity to levels that would make us all start from scratch no resources except a couple sticks and some stones and hope to find clean water to drink fresh air to breath a shelter or the ability to get a fire going to stay warm or another living human being to talk to instead of fight against over a piece of food , or a scrap of cloth .

When I was young in Canadian schools I was taught we came across the ocean to a new land and found new peoples living in the Americas and that they showed us how to live here what was good to eat how to survive the winter . In my imagination I was thinking I would love to have learned to live off the land and hunt and live with the land with respect the environment and know that we are part of a living planet contributing in the cycle of nature .
What I learned as I grew up was quite the contrast to what I thought . Not only did we come to the Americas but sailed around the world in the search or new lands to conquer take for our selfs in the names of kings and Queens and god . We found savages and traded trinkets to them and to there waring tribes pitting them against each other by offering each more trade for there resources the land , the beaver the buffalo herds the pelts they gave for guns and alcohol so they would kill each other off making room for us to take over there land . To our surprise they also got sick from viruses we carried but we had developed an immunity too, thus decimating there numbers from the sicknesses we brought . They came to us for help and we forced the Indian out them, destroyed there history ,language,beliefs,religion and knowledge that they had and this was but a small part the evils we did . What we did was Genocide ! In order to take over the land and resources for our selfs .
I walk down the street and see the hate in there eyes toward me cause I'm white, and deservingly so, they are right to have that anger . Many time I've been told to get off there land. I hear the hate that runs so deep toward us white peoples, there own brothers and sisters mothers and fathers family and friends and them selfs .The First Nation peoples of the world have the right to be angry , I can only hope they can heal from the anger and be stronger against the odds that are against them . I would like to see the First Nations join in unison on a world wide scale North and South Americas, Australia and anywhere else we caused a genocide and Unite as a global force for each other to stand up in unity for each other as a World First Nations Organization . As the WTO , WHO , have become a world force the WFNO should have a say for there rights .

Perhaps the way the world is now and the future of the things yet to come was meant to be and we can't changed it even if we see it coming .And if thats the case I've seen the end and based my life choices and chosen not to have a family and friends and will die alone based on my childhood nightmares . Or prove me wrong and change the course of the direction in which I see Humanity heading and Ill die a foolish old man !

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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 8th, 2011, 1:33 am 
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I feel your pain SE and I can relate to your fears. While you engage your brain with what's going on right now and work to the best of your abilities to help bring positive change, I would recommend that you also find fun and supportive groups to join. Don't forget to look after yourself. You might try joining a community centre, an art class, a sports team, a church (or whatever your preference). Find some places and people that make you feel hopeful and supported. I have been working on the same thing. Sorry if I am being too presumtuous....but I suggested because I do relate. All the best.


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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 9th, 2011, 1:01 am 
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I am angry,confused,shocked,bewildered,afraid,awestruck and amazed !

I am angry at the corporations power and greed !

Genetically Modified Seeds
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=12309
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... -food.aspx
http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-firms/10558-t ... wns-nature
http://pesn.com/2011/11/06/9601948_Mons ... Biosphere/

Tobacco business
Choosing Investments With Long-Term Value
In 1987, Buffett famously stated, "I'll tell you why I like the cigarette business. It costs a penny to make. Sell it for a dollar. It's addictive. And there's fantastic brand loyalty." While he later stated that the tobacco industry was burdened with issues that made him change his opinion of it, this statement sums up Buffett's description of the perfect investment.
http://tforbes.com/columns/finally-some ... logan.html
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/gl ... ools-china

Profits from war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_profiteering
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Milit ... f_War.html

Damming up the Amazon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13614684
http://seminariointernacional.webs.com/ ... rnside.pdf

Mining and Pipelines
http://noii-van.resist.ca/?p=4519

When corporation use the law or change the law to suit there progress at the expenses of people I'm shocked ,bewildered,angered,confused !

How can the law or government say they're representing the people ? Perhaps the question should be for what people are you representing ?
How can a Judge or government official that has a background working for a corporation be put into a position to make a change in the law or put forward motions that would grant the corporations they previously worked for the go ahead to do what they are seeking to do ?

I am afraid !
I am afraid because of the power , greed ,that these super corporations have over the Law,and Government . They have so much power that they can shut down the entire world if they were put out business . I'm afraid because our entire system is so dependent on super corporations grip over the world economy and continues to seek more power more control ,more money more money more money .
I'm afraid of the decisions our government makes behind closed doors with corporations ,for us to find out later the price we will have to pay ,the powers that are gained by the corporations , the subsidies that are lost,the natural resources that are sold or leased , the contracts that are changed .We don't have voice in what goes on behind closed doors, we find out later what has transpired but not always in full detail .
We elect our government to do the will of the people....but what people ? The political system needs to change so everyone has a voice not to vote on the politicians making the decisions for us the people but that we have voice for the decisions the government is making for us that affect us. Us being the whole population, everyone !
I'll be told to go vote for the politician thats runing at the time if I want change, but that dosn't work when an issue that may effect me dosnt allow me a voice other then to wait for the next election when I get to vote on a different government .
I have no faith in the politacl system , I have no trust in goverment .

Seems I'm not alone , I'm seeing others seeing the same things as I , feeling the same as I . The I is becoming the WE , the WE is becoming the majority !
WE ARE THE 99% !

I am awestruck and amazed !
I am awestruck and amazed at this world movement of OCCUPY !
I am not alone I'm one of the 99% !

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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 13th, 2011, 6:57 pm 
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Last few weeks has really got me thinking . I've realized that humanity has been in constant war . That there hasn't been true peace ever .North America was conquer by war. Peaceful Protests are met with military personal ,and weapons are used to disperse the crowds.

I was shown some wisdom recently http://www.sinixtnation.org/
And this got me thinking more about the war that led up to the First Nations having there land taken .

Quote:
1. By order in council dated 9 July 1704 Her Majesty Queen Anne constituted an independent and impartial Standing Committee with juridical jurisdiction over boundary disputes between the Indians’ Hunting Grounds and the Crown Governments’ Public Lands (surrendered Hunting Grounds), which order implicitly precludes a competing original jurisdiction in alternative Crown Courts.

2. By order in council dated 7 October 1763 His Majesty King George III expressly constituted in colonial Crown Courts jurisdiction for the apprehension and trial of persons committing crimes upon Public Lands who flee to Hunting Grounds to evade criminal process.

3. By act of parliament 1 & 2 Geo. III, c 66 (1821) the said previously established jurisdiction of the said colonial Crown Courts was enlarged to encompass crimes committed by persons (exclusive of natives) upon the Hunting Grounds themselves.

From page 3 of http://www.sinixtnation.org/resources/law20review.pdf
http://sisis.nativeweb.org/sov/petcan.html
Crown Land http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_land
British Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

The key words for me here was (surrendered Hunting Grounds), in order to have surrendered there had to be conflict .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_River

Occupy has become more then a protest more then a movement it's becoming an Awakening . Occupy is Awakening knowledge and sharing all views all perspectives on all matters concerning everyone thats affected or has been affected by the past and present .
The peaceful movement of Occupy can not bring change with Physical fighting or verbal assaults against those that don't understand whats going on or against those that do understand . But can bring change with shared knowledge , a willingness to listen and teach and share .
Fight the war with kindness , love , compassion and respect . Know that there is fear and anger and uncertainty.
Know you are entitled to your feelings and you are accountable for your actions.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights
http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/default-eng.aspx
http://www.ohrc.on.ca/

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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 15th, 2011, 9:00 pm 
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so i work in a hotel ( a chain of them) and bc hydro has a program to put led lights in comercial buildings for a rebate.....FOR FREE .... so i phoned and asked them if i could get them in my home and of courtse they did not have any thing for the common person... the hotel i work at has 50,000 dollars worth of lights and i heard a hotel up north has a order up to 80,000 dollars worth of lights


thanks bc hydro for looking after the bread and butter of your operation that is me


who cARE S ABOUT THE GUY WHO IS STRUGGING TO FEED HIS TWO CHILDREN


I SUPPORT YOUR CAUSE

LOVE YOU GUYS

AND SORRY FOR THE POOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THE SAME BOAT


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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 15th, 2011, 10:27 pm 
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dont we own bc hydro ????? so why are they giving the corps the lights


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 Post subject: Re: A Few Thoughts
Unread postPosted: November 16th, 2011, 11:21 pm 
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As far as I know Bc Hydro sold to Terasen, at least in Kelowna they have.


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