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I agree with much of what you are saying Anton, and I am in similar circumstances. However, I don't think there needs to be a total collapse of the city to make a difference! I think little by little, whether Occupy remains Occupied in parks or not...the Occupy idea has been planted. Little Occupy initiatives can be ongoing that actually make steps towards change without even demanding change: engaging outreach, PR, really creative non-aggressive activism, public forums, marches..anything and everything on an ongoing basis as changes unfold. I think OV needs to think of next steps too. They need to draw more expert help into the movement who are in the 99%, to help with PR and legal education--to seek it out as well. I think the problem is that Occupy got so big so fast, and we live in an instant gratification world, that people are expecting huge changes overnight. It might take years to change attitudes, and they are not going to change with behaviour and confusing demands that totally alienate the 99%...all the people who you need to get on board to make change happen! So many peope are totally addicted to money and consumerism and they are not going to let go and embrace sudden change. People are still pretty comfortable in Canada ,still getting their fixes, and the really harsh economic realities of the world haven't hit most of them--yet. You and I , and the occupiers might already forsee it...but many of them don't feel it coming yet. So they agree with OWS in theory, they agree that things are bad in the US, but for them to put ideas fior change into practice here is something different. They kind of have one foot at the art gallery and another in Pacific Centre. OV needs to make small steps forward and not expect too much too soon. Get to know your politicians, work with them to make change. I think that's just a reality as well.
Then there are others who are really really desperate for change, but want to see more things and different things, new ideas happen...I am in that category as well...we need to renew the sense of enthusiasm that people felt on October 15th somehow and keep it going!
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