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[Berry Sweet]

Tops ya skids...but i still like my questions answered!

[RealWoman]

Barriers for women going into trades include (but are not limited to):

- gender stereotyping at schools and in society starting at a young age
- lack of awareness of trade training and available opportunities
- biased recruitment practices
- workplace culture that erode retention of women
- family responsibilities

http://www.itabc.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=1096

[RealWoman]

Tops ya skids...but i still like my questions answered!

I don't remember why I asked. :/

[Renee]

Oh come on RW; you know as well as I that the only "thought" that flappy assed, old bag of wind is "entertaining" is whether or not he made the right choice between Lime Jell-O and apple sauce for dinner.

I'd give him a bit more credit than that Renee, although I do appreciate you taking advantage of an opportunity to insult using your sharp sense of humour

Okay have it your way, maybe he is also thinking about if he remembered to lock the hand break on his walker.

Be serious RW; asking Ratcock to equate any kind of education for women as a means to get ahead in the workplace is a waste of time.

The last time that pile of ancient dust had anything to do with a real live woman; she was probably cooking dinner on one of those newfangled electric stoves while vacuuming the rumpus room with her new Electrolux that she got as a Christmas present.

[mimi]

I'd give him a bit more credit than that Renee, although I do appreciate you taking advantage of an opportunity to insult using your sharp sense of humour

Okay have it your way, maybe he is also thinking about if he remembered to lock the hand break on his walker.

Be serious RW; asking Ratcock to equate any kind of education for women as a means to get ahead in the workplace is a waste of time.

The last time that pile of ancient dust had anything to do with a real live woman; she was probably cooking dinner on one of those newfangled electric stoves while vacuuming the rumpus room with her new Electrolux that she got as a Christmas present.

You forgot 'Pledging' the wood paneling. =)))

[RealWoman]

I'd give him a bit more credit than that Renee, although I do appreciate you taking advantage of an opportunity to insult using your sharp sense of humour

Okay have it your way, maybe he is also thinking about if he remembered to lock the hand break on his walker.

Be serious RW; asking Ratcock to equate any kind of education for women as a means to get ahead in the workplace is a waste of time.

The last time that pile of ancient dust had anything to do with a real live woman; she was probably cooking dinner on one of those newfangled electric stoves while vacuuming the rumpus room with her new Electrolux that she got as a Christmas present.

Yes, I can see how many can't get past the sexism stuff but he actually makes a valid point about women in specific fields and women making up the majority of those attending college and university. If you look at it, schools are now catering to the education of girls/women and boys/men are slipping. Just like there are impediments for women in trades, the same could hold true for men in universities.

[Rotwang]

So far, if I understand your caterwauling correctly, the status quo is OK because Mimi can lay bricks, women socialize better and take offense at prurient images and bad language, women have babies, and there is a range of barriers (which are utter bullshit)preventing women entering trades. Oh, and that blathering, blubber-filled behemoth Renee can't seem to get past ageist slurs that might have been funny the first time I heard them...10 years ago.

Wipe the chicken grease and pizza debris off your keyboard, Rotunda. You might see a whole lot of other keys that will open up some original thinking. Words like "salad" and "fruit" might manifest themselves.

What I haven't seen is any rational, reasoned and acceptable justification for the clear and obvious bias in the education system that is failing our communities, both men and women.

And remember, ladies, every social malfunction has a ripple effect. A very substantial ripple effect.

Like a tennis ball hitting Renee's bloated stomach.

[RealWoman]

The reason for the "obvious bias" in the educational system is, once again, correction. A shift in the appeal to women which has been largely successful. In the true spirit of swinging over compensation, it has resulted in a lack of appeal for men. Once again, there is a correction happening that will hopefully bring us closer to balance.

I also don't see barriers as utter bullshit.

[Renee]

So far, if I understand your caterwauling correctly, the status quo is OK because Mimi can lay bricks, women socialize better and take offense at prurient images and bad language, women have babies, and there is a range of barriers (which are utter bullshit)preventing women entering trades. Oh, and that blathering, blubber-filled behemoth Renee can't seem to get past ageist slurs that might have been funny the first time I heard them...10 years ago.

I'm pretty certain you heard them A LOT longer ago than that.

Wipe the chicken grease and pizza debris off your keyboard, Rotunda. You might see a whole lot of other keys that will open up some original thinking. Words like "salad" and "fruit" might manifest themselves.

Talk about not being able to get past used up old slurs. I wonder if you have a single clue regarding how stupid you sound?

What I haven't seen is any rational, reasoned and acceptable justification for the clear and obvious bias in the education system that is failing our communities, both men and women.

Go back and re-read the thread dumbass. More than a few good explanations were actually given in well thought out and easy to read posts. Maybe you just missed them or maybe you are too stupid to understand them or MAYBE……. you just need those cataracts removed.

And remember, ladies, every social malfunction has a ripple effect. A very substantial ripple effect.

Like a tennis ball hitting Renee's bloated stomach.

Once again is this all you got? Okay let’s go with it. The "ripple effect" from my “bloated” stomach probably pales in comparison to the flapping your old wrinkled turkey neck does when it gets caught in the wind.

[Guyver I]

University is not just for simple education, but a test and to train a person mentally reliable in terms of quality for the job. I've seen huge differences of performance in my father's company between university grads and non-uni grads. People that went through university are naturally harder working and a more dependable person.

[Munday]

Barriers for women going into trades include (but are not limited to):

- gender stereotyping at schools and in society starting at a young age
- lack of awareness of trade training and available opportunities
- biased recruitment practices
- workplace culture that erode retention of women
- family responsibilities

http://www.itabc.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=1096

i notice -lack of ability to do the job....is conspicuously absent from your list