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[RealWoman]

On your head woman

RW the unknown fucking comic

Really? You are just figuring it out now that I have sense of humour?

Little slow on the uptake aintcha.

[GAMBINO]

No i am figuring out that you need a paper bag on yer fucken head but that doesnt mean yo is a comic and funny


I'll fucken give yo funny!!

[RealWoman]

No i am figuring out that you need a paper bag on yer fucken head but that doesnt mean yo is a comic and funny
I'll fucken give yo funny!!

And you need a fucken plastic one on yours.

[ghost]

I bet i fucken earn more money than.....nevermind

You pay the motel bill then

and room service

and just what are you planning on contributing to this little tryst?

[RealWoman]

I bet i fucken earn more money than.....nevermind

You pay the motel bill then

and room service

and just what are you planning on contributing to this little tryst?

Bong water and herpes.

[ghost]

Yes, but it doesn't mean they don't or aren't capable of doing it.

Of course not but as a generalized statement, it isn't that far off.

And there are plenty of fields that women dominate too.

That's not the point of my argument. It was stated that women don't like to get their hands dirty and only go into certain fields. I'm pointing out that it's not always true.

Men and women are different. I get tired of hearing people try and say they're the same. People are different. We're individuals. We need to stop comparing apples to oranges because it's a useless argument.

[GAMBINO]

I bet i fucken earn more money than.....nevermind

You pay the motel bill then

and room service

and just what are you planning on contributing to this little tryst?

Now thats a surprise

Youll just have to wait and see

[RealWoman]

Now thats a surprise
Youll just have to wait and see

I already told her. Sorry!

[Berry Sweet]

I can just feel the love in the room.......

[RealWoman]

Have you been toking up again Berry?

[ghost]

and just what are you planning on contributing to this little tryst?

Now thats a surprise

Youll just have to wait and see

Is this that 'open your mouth and close your eyes' thing cause I'm not falling for that again.

[GAMBINO]

Now thats a surprise

Youll just have to wait and see

Is this that 'open your mouth and close your eyes' thing cause I'm not falling for that again.

Its ok u can trust me

[Berry Sweet]

Have you been toking up again Berry?

What makes you think that?

[ghost]

Is this that 'open your mouth and close your eyes' thing cause I'm not falling for that again.

Its ok u can trust me

Yeah, sure I can.

[Rotwang]

I'm pretty happy with this world. I earn more money than any man I know.

And I have six years of education. Two degrees and a MA. The psychology degree isn't a requirement for my line of work but the other degrees are. Others will argue that you don't need an education for my line of work but it certainly helps. The biggest and most successful people in my field all hold degrees.

I also know a woman carpenter, a female pipe fitter and a lady plumber. My brother married a girl who worked with rebar.

I've also worked several jobs in my life that were mostly male jobs.

So don't give me this crap that females don't like to get their hands dirty.

Talking of crap...are you implying that women are equally represented in jobs where hands are soiled?

Seriously?

If they occupy more than ONE SINGLE PERCENT of skilled labour positions, I will be astonished.

Every time women are challenged about the adversity to manual labour, someone says "But I know someone who is...........".

So, OK. Lets agree they are capable.

Why, then, do they not wish to do this jobs, and aim for nice, clean, educated jobs?

[deletedelete]

Is this the world you wanted?

yes. but it's not 'finished' yet, it needs to be more equal.

why is holding skilled labour position such a big deal and being a dentist or a lawyer isn't?

[GAMBINO]

^ Alf Garnett

[Rotwang]

Is this the world you wanted?

yes. but it's not 'finished' yet, it needs to be more equal.

why is holding skilled labour position such a big deal and being a dentist or a lawyer isn't?

When you say "more equal", what you really mean is that we give women even MORE advantage and hands up than they have now.

After all...where is there any inequality now? Think very carefully before answering.

As to your question, I would expect that from an idiot, not necessarily a sexist.

The question is invalid. Holding any form of vocation is not a "big deal". Explain then, why women avoid the hard and dirty jobs, while expecting a fast track into higher paying jobs through a clearly biased education system.

Women are equally capable, as I've already accepted with Ghost's post. So why aren't they laying bricks, plumbing pipes, digging trenches.

Oh, wait...silly me...thats man's work.

[mimi]

K wait. What's with the 'we give' women more advantage ? Who is 'we' ? And why is it assumed it's theirs to give ? =)))

And for the record...as for laying bricks, plumbing pipes, digging trenches....I've done all of those things. =)

[Sharlee]

I'll probably be shot down for offering generalizations that aren't universally true, but I can't help but wade into the discussion.

Women are equally capable, as I've already accepted with Ghost's post. So why aren't they laying bricks, plumbing pipes, digging trenches.

Oh, wait...silly me...thats man's work.

Studies have shown that on the whole, women are more verbal than men, which suggests that they're more social. I don't think anyone would disagree that the average man has more strength and physical stamina than the average woman. I'd guess that most people, when choosing a career, select one that will employ their natural skills. I could probably figure out how to do a lot of skilled trades, but I'd miss the social element that comes from my job and quite frankly, I seriously doubt my back would hold up under continuous manual labour. I'm simply not physically built for it and not motivated to try.

Because I wanted to have a family, I also chose careers (I'm on my second) that would allow me to work while pregnant (it's hard to work as a gas fitter when you can't crawl and have to pee every 30 minutes) and have flexibility to raise my children and be reachable 24/7. I also thought it important that I be alive to rear my kids, so fishing for Alaskan crab didn't make the short list either. I based my career choices on a broad picture of what I wanted my life to look like and skilled trades just didn't cut it.

Generally speaking, men seem to enjoy working with systems and infrastructure and women with people. I'll leave the building of roads to those who find it stimulating to craft them and will appreciate their work as I use the roads to get to the people on the other end. It's what makes me happy and I'm not apologetic that I've chosen careers that I find stimulating and rewarding. I didn't make those choices because I'm a woman, but because I like to be happy. I think most people are the same.

[mimi]

I also thought it important that I be alive to rear my kids, so fishing for Alaskan crab didn't make the short list either.

Love it !

[GAMBINO]

I'll probably be shot down for offering generalizations that aren't universally true, but I can't help but wade into the discussion.

Women are equally capable, as I've already accepted with Ghost's post. So why aren't they laying bricks, plumbing pipes, digging trenches.

Oh, wait...silly me...thats man's work.

Studies have shown that on the whole, women are more verbal than men, which suggests that they're more social. I don't think anyone would disagree that the average man has more strength and physical stamina than the average woman. I'd guess that most people, when choosing a career, select one that will employ their natural skills. I could probably figure out how to do a lot of skilled trades, but I'd miss the social element that comes from my job and quite frankly, I seriously doubt my back would hold up under continuous manual labour. I'm simply not physically built for it and not motivated to try.

Because I wanted to have a family, I also chose careers (I'm on my second) that would allow me to work while pregnant (it's hard to work as a gas fitter when you can't crawl and have to pee every 30 minutes) and have flexibility to raise my children and be reachable 24/7. I also thought it important that I be alive to rear my kids, so fishing for Alaskan crab didn't make the short list either. I based my career choices on a broad picture of what I wanted my life to look like and skilled trades just didn't cut it.

Generally speaking, men seem to enjoy working with systems and infrastructure and women with people. I'll leave the building of roads to those who find it stimulating to craft them and will appreciate their work as I use the roads to get to the people on the other end. It's what makes me happy and I'm not apologetic that I've chosen careers that I find stimulating and rewarding. I didn't make those choices because I'm a woman, but because I like to be happy. I think most people are the same.

so yo became a school teecher

so you could sit around pissing every half hour and rooting in between

career or kids yo cant have em both yo selfish cunt

[Willard]

Generally speaking, women are a minority in building trades.

Yes, but it doesn't mean they don't or aren't capable of doing it.

Betty is 'one of the guys.'

http://www.bcit.ca/stories/betty.shtml



Tough to survive as a feminine female if you get what I'm trying to say, I'm yet to see it. Women in trades are growing though so perhaps I'll see it someday.

[mimi]

[Willard]

I'll probably be shot down for offering generalizations that aren't universally true, but I can't help but wade into the discussion.

Women are equally capable, as I've already accepted with Ghost's post. So why aren't they laying bricks, plumbing pipes, digging trenches.

Oh, wait...silly me...thats man's work.

Studies have shown that on the whole, women are more verbal than men, which suggests that they're more social. I don't think anyone would disagree that the average man has more strength and physical stamina than the average woman. I'd guess that most people, when choosing a career, select one that will employ their natural skills. I could probably figure out how to do a lot of skilled trades, but I'd miss the social element that comes from my job and quite frankly, I seriously doubt my back would hold up under continuous manual labour. I'm simply not physically built for it and not motivated to try.

Because I wanted to have a family, I also chose careers (I'm on my second) that would allow me to work while pregnant (it's hard to work as a gas fitter when you can't crawl and have to pee every 30 minutes) and have flexibility to raise my children and be reachable 24/7. I also thought it important that I be alive to rear my kids, so fishing for Alaskan crab didn't make the short list either. I based my career choices on a broad picture of what I wanted my life to look like and skilled trades just didn't cut it.

Generally speaking, men seem to enjoy working with systems and infrastructure and women with people. I'll leave the building of roads to those who find it stimulating to craft them and will appreciate their work as I use the roads to get to the people on the other end. It's what makes me happy and I'm not apologetic that I've chosen careers that I find stimulating and rewarding. I didn't make those choices because I'm a woman, but because I like to be happy. I think most people are the same.

I think it's more a case of women not adapting to, "Ah the dumb cuntfuckers, they smludgeoned it again. Pass me that watchamathingy, we'll beat the cocksucker out. Hey check out miss july on the underside of my toolbox lid." Not to mention things like bringing feelings [plural] to work as opposed to mens feeling [singular, only room for one] and personal issues; two guys get in an argument and a well timed "fuck off" ends it, friends again tomorrow or they simply just don't speak - but they can still work together in angry silence. Women have a much higher frequency of letting it simmer and having ongoing personal issues. In HS I remember walking down the hall with female friends, "Oh hi! how are you, errr, stupid bitch I hate you." Men aren't sophisticated enough for that, just pigs with our workplace sexist jokes would have Heather McNaughton's panties tied so tight her legs would turn blue.

As an employer I would worry far more about personal issues, handling of male dominated workforces and other such issues than work skills. No reason they can't do the physical or skills aspects of it, their are male electricians that are 5'2" & 130 lbs that get by just fine and nothing anywhere says they can handle the skullwork any less.

[RealWoman]

When you say "more equal", what you really mean is that we give women even MORE advantage and hands up than they have now.
After all...where is there any inequality now? Think very carefully before answering.

I wonder if you have ever entertained the thought that perhaps more women go on to obtain a post secondary education as a result of gender bias in the workplace.

[Renee]

When you say "more equal", what you really mean is that we give women even MORE advantage and hands up than they have now.
After all...where is there any inequality now? Think very carefully before answering.

I wonder if you have ever entertained the thought that perhaps more women go on to obtain a post secondary education as a result of gender bias in the workplace.

Oh come on RW; you know as well as I that the only "thought" that flappy assed, old bag of wind is "entertaining" is whether or not he made the right choice between Lime Jell-O and apple sauce for dinner.

[RealWoman]

Talking of crap...are you implying that women are equally represented in jobs where hands are soiled?

Seriously?

If they occupy more than ONE SINGLE PERCENT of skilled labour positions, I will be astonished.

Every time women are challenged about the adversity to manual labour, someone says "But I know someone who is...........".

So, OK. Lets agree they are capable.

Why, then, do they not wish to do this jobs, and aim for nice, clean, educated jobs?

Allow me to astonish you!

In Canada (2006), women's share of skilled labour positions (trades, transport, equipment operators and related occupations) is a little over 2%. In occupations unique to primary industry, women make up 1% of the workforce and in jobs related to processing, manufacturing and utilities, women sit at 3%. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-004-x/2 ... -2-eng.htm

In terms of education, women made up 2% of those with trades certificates in mechanics and repairers and in construction trades, 3% of certificates in the precision production trades, 7% in transportation and materials moving, and 10% in engineering technology.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-004-x/2 ... 51-eng.htm

Note, I am not making the claim that women make up a significant portion of those in trades, just wanted to point out that it's a bit higher than you thought.

[RealWoman]

Oh come on RW; you know as well as I that the only "thought" that flappy assed, old bag of wind is "entertaining" is whether or not he made the right choice between Lime Jell-O and apple sauce for dinner.

I'd give him a bit more credit than that Renee, although I do appreciate you taking advantage of an opportunity to insult using your sharp sense of humour

[Berry Sweet]

Have you been toking up again Berry?

What makes you think that?

You didn't answer my question