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[cc la tarte]

Quote Querky: "Males diddling boys is not a homosexual act. "

And in lalaland, the sun in the sky is not the sun??

[mimi]

I stated several times - "a homosexual act (males diddling boys) is a homosexual act" and asked your comment to it

I get the wiggle-around it reply, quote > "a pedophile who abuses boys, is not necessarily homosexual."

One more time, a simple straightforward question. - is males diddling boys (also males) a homosexual act"?
A simple "yes" or "no" would be great.

Wow. You are nasty.

A pedophile who abuses boys is not necessarily homosexual. Males diddling boys is not a homosexual act.

It's an act of pedophilia. Some people see the distinction....some don't.

[cc la tarte]

Right, an act of male / male rape i.e. an act of homosexual pedophilia

convenient "distinction", p a t h e t i c

I guess one has to live in lalaland to see the "distinction" with a straight face ... unfucking real

HELP: I'm caught in mbland .. cc to earth .. cc to earth ...

[mimi]

It's ok to admit you don't get it. It's not ok to try and convince those who do, that they don't.

[cc la tarte]

p a t h e t i c ... fucking p a t h e t i c .... only in mbworld

cc back to earth ... out

[mimi]

p a t h e t i c ... fucking p a t h e t i c .... only in mbville ... cc back to earth ... out

Couldn't agree more.

Maybe while you're back on earth....you could read up on the subject....then there wouldn't be any need for argument.

[cc la tarte]

I have learned that in LaLaLand, young boy pedo victims can attempt to seek comfort in knowing that the homosexual act they were a victim of was not a really a homosexual act.

Moving on from LaLaLand, this may have gotten lost on another page

In an earlier post you said 5-10% of the population is gay/lesbian. Make up your mind. It's bad enough you make up your 'facts'.

You are our resident gay ace. Despite all your many gay oriented posts, I don't recall seeing you put it all into perspective / numbers.

Put your money where your mouth is. Cite creditable stats. (Please try to avoid your left-loaded sources and cite something neutral and meaningful, maybe even official, eh? )

A straight up Question to our resident Ex-Spurt > What %age of the overall male population is gay?

You are on: 1%? 3%? 6% .. another %? ...

Inquiring minds wonder. Please set us straight on "the facts"

[Gay Boy Bob]

Here are some FACTS for certain posters

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.

In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children."

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.

The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult
partner.

MANY MORE FACTS:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/h ... ation.html

[cc la tarte]

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[Romero]

Right, an act of male / male rape i.e. an act of homosexual pedophilia

convenient "distinction", p a t h e t i c

I guess one has to live in lalaland to see the "distinction" with a straight face ... unfucking real

HELP: I'm caught in mbland .. cc to earth .. cc to earth ...

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.

In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic references are on a different web page]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Straight from the experts. Nice company you've got on your side, cc.

After all this time you couldn't take a couple of minutes to find the truth? I guess you just don't want to.

Sandusky didn't molest because he's homosexual. He molested because he's a molester.

[cc la tarte]

"rainbow/html" .. ummm ok, right

Back to earth

"What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

a simple number will do

Here are some FACTS for certain posters .... bla bla .....Catholic church's .... divert divert ...

Diversion aside, > "What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

a simple number will do

[Romero]

Why does it matter what percentage of the overall male population is gay? It varies from around 3-15%.

[cc la tarte]

ummmm .... pat questioned an estimate - but has yet to provide a real #

Back to earth

"What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

a simple number will do

Here are some FACTS for certain posters .... bla bla .....Catholic church's .... divert divert ...

Diversion aside, > "What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

a simple number will do

[mimi]

I have learned that in LaLaLand, young boy pedo victims can attempt to seek comfort in knowing that the homosexual act they were a victim of was not a really a homosexual act.[/b]"

As a matter of fact cc....that's EXACTLY what years of therapy tries to teach them.

[Lochdubh]

He's the kind of chap who gives pederasts a bad name.

[Lochdubh]

I have learned that in LaLaLand, young boy pedo victims can attempt to seek comfort in knowing that the homosexual act they were a victim of was not a really a homosexual act.[/b]"

As a matter of fact cc....that's EXACTLY what years of therapy tries to teach them.

Good luck with that. I'd imagine it is difficult to forget that you had some old bastard's dick in your mouth or shoved up your wazoo, no matter what the trickcyclists say.

[Lochdubh]

Right, an act of male / male rape i.e. an act of homosexual pedophilia

convenient "distinction", p a t h e t i c

I guess one has to live in lalaland to see the "distinction" with a straight face ... unfucking real

HELP: I'm caught in mbland .. cc to earth .. cc to earth ...

Grooound control to Major Tom.................

[cc la tarte]

EXACTLY ^

Back to earth - Unfortunately there are many Sanduskys out there. My homosexual classmate boy pedo was many times smoooother than he, for one example

He was so smooooth he even ended up working in the office of his prison shrink ffs. Most people have no idea how smart these guys are at fooling people

[Lochdubh]

Shaved close did he?

[mimi]

As a matter of fact cc....that's EXACTLY what years of therapy tries to teach them.

Good luck with that. I'd imagine it is difficult to forget that you had some old bastard's dick in your mouth or shoved up your wazoo, no matter what the trickcyclist's say.

The purpose of therapy isn't to make them forget....it's to make them understand firstly...that what happened to them wasn't their fault...and secondly, that 'the act' is not a defining factor in their own sexual identity. CC would prefer that it was explained to them that they were involved in a homosexual act....but of course most of us know that isn't the case.

[Gay Boy Bob]

CC wrote:
"Back to earth"What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

The number is, of course, impossible to verify. Why? Because of the hatred people like CC and Mundane exhibit. The kind of hatred and prejudice they exhibit helps keep many gay men and women closeted and in fear of coming out. And that's a fact.

[cc la tarte]

ya. He out-shrinked his prison shrink

[Romero]

According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,232584,00.html#ixzz1ypRS7KMB

No expert would find a connection between pedophilia and homosexuality.

Got anything to back up your claim, cc? Be careful.

[Lochdubh]

My view is that they were mentally and/or physically coerced into participating in a homosexual act. I find it difficult to believe that they will in time come to forget the homosexual aspect of what went down.

If I get run over by a drunken bus driver, I doubt if I will be successful in forgetting the "bus" part of the event.

[cc la tarte]

CC wrote:
"Back to earth"What %age of the overall male population is gay?"

The number is, of course, impossible to verify. ..... Munday Munday .. bla bla

Right .. no answer ... and it's Munday's fault

Between that ludicrous embarrassing cop out post and others "male on male is not a homosexual act" .... I'm getting the picture here.

Alice to Wonderland!! ... Alice to Wonderland!! ... Helloooo!! ...over

[Lochdubh]

I blame Bush!

[Gay Boy Bob]

CC what is your point? Or do you have one? You ignore all logic, content to live in the distant Anita Bryant past.

From earlier post:

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

[mimi]

My view is that they were mentally and/or physically coerced into participating in a homosexual act. I find it difficult to believe that they will in time come to forget the homosexual aspect of what went down.

If I get run over by a drunken bus driver, I doubt if I will be successful in forgetting the "bus" part of the event.

And the road to recovery would be in teaching them the danger was the drunken bus driver, not the bus.

[Romero]

Between that ludicrous embarrassing cop out post and others "male on male is not a homosexual act" .... I'm getting the picture here.

Would you say male on female/female on male pedophilia are heterosexual acts?

[mimi]

CC what is your point? Or do you have one? You ignore all logic, content to live in the distant Anita Bryant past.

It's easier to assume everyone else is out to lunch when you don't understand something.