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The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:28

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The Fraud of Islam

This is an Article that tells it like it is in simple terms - I think it is pretty much on the mark.
It comes from the site of an Iranian born and raised islamic who could not hack its cruelty, supremacy, misogyny and concealed lies, finally leaving islam for the reasons found in this article.

The first 5 Sections of this thread will be posted over a bit of time to allow digestion (and meaningful rebuttals) of it in parts / sections ... and will ultimately carry the entire 5 Sections of this article in sequence from Post # 2 - Post # 6

Well Supported Rebuttals Most Welcome

Anyone disagreeing with what is said, please say so and support why you disagree. I will keep Post # 6 open where I can place properly proven arguments against it.

The usual "It does NOT" or "What you think it is or isn't" doesn't cut it :D

Go for it!! - Rip it to shreds!!

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The Fraud of Islam

POST 2 Section 1 - General
POST 3 Section 2 - Mind Control
POST 4 Section 3 - Islam Apologists
POST 5 Section 4 - Political Islam
POST 6 Section 5 - Islamics and Liberty
POST 7 Section 6 - Well Supported Rebuttals
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:28

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The Fraud of Islam

All sections (the whole article) posted are together sequentially at the beginning of the thread ... posted periodically until all 5 sections are posted.

POST 2 Section 1 - General

From the primitive land of the Arabian Peninsula of over 14 centuries ago rose Muhammad, an illiterate hired hand of a rich widow Khadija, claiming he was the bearer of a perfect life prescription from God—the Quran. He claimed humanity could do no better than to follow its precepts as well as to emulate Muhammad’s own life example for a guarantee of bliss and salvation. In exchange for this, people had to embrace Islam—surrender—by surrendering their liberty to Muhammad.

Islam is the most successful fraud in the history of humanity, and it is a great success. Millions of mullahs and imams keep the fraud going, and over a billion and a half of the faithful pay for it. They pay in funds, labor and even life, for the IOUs issued to them by the Islamic organizations that glide through life without breaking a sweat for earning their daily bread. Islam is a fraud and Muslims are the victims.

Muhammad, during his Mecca years, was ridiculed for his confused sayings by his own tribe of Quraish. He was called “shaeron majnoon”—crazed poet.

The death of his first wife and wealthy employer Khadija left Muhammad even more vulnerable to the ridicule and harassment of the Meccans. He fled from Mecca to Medina and in the relative safety of that city with a large tolerant Jewish community, Muhammad found more people willing to join his clique.

Once in Medina, Muhammad hit on a most powerful formula for success. He justified everything by claiming that Allah wanted it this way. And Allah was nothing to trifle with. He held the key to the most magnificent paradise as well as to a dreadful hell. The duty of every good Muslim became unquestioning obedience to everything that Muhammad said and wished. Muhammad became Allah’s gatekeeper to paradise and hell.

Muhammad’s formula worked magic with the Bedouins of Arabia who thrived on robbery and killing. His religion spread like a pandemic disease in no time at all.

As Muhammad gathered more and more followers, he turned on the Jewish community of Medina, killed the men, plundered their belongings, and captured their women and children as slaves. That was the birth of “Jihad.” Be meek and deceptive first, until you gather enough power then unsheathe the sword. It worked then and it is working today.

In no time at all, the savages of Arabia, allured by the win-win promise of Muhammad—you kill you get the booty from your victims in this world—you get killed and your abode will be the unimaginably glorious sensuous paradise of Allah—sword-in-hand, sallied forth to lands near and far.

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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

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POST 3 Section 2 - Mind Control

As humans, our two legs move us along, but it is our minds that tell us which path to take in life and what to do. As the mind commands so goes the person. Yet, for humans, the mind does not arrive in this world with a set program of instructions. Contrary to many beliefs, we are born neither as demons nor as angels. Within each one of us is a potential for a demon or an angel. Many evolve into a mix of the two, a few fortunate mature into truly angelic and some become personifications of evil. It is the mind’s program that plays the critical role in making us what we are

Islam, from its inception, discovered the crucial secret of getting to the young mind early by adhering to the dictum: Instruction in early childhood is akin to carving in a rock. In the same vein goes the Jesuit saying, “Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man,” derived from the philosophy and theology of Saint Augustine. The immense importance of getting early to the young mind is also emphasized by non-religious doctrines as diverse as the Freudian psychoanalytic theory and Watsonian Behaviorist psychology.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:29

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POST 4 Section 3 - Islam Apologists

And here we are in the 21st century facing the onslaught of the Islamists, jihadist and Islam apologists in our culture and way of life. These are the fruits of the tree of fraud, planted by Muhammad some 1400 years ago.

Self-described doctors of Islamic religion universally practice sugarcoating the fraud of Islam. They keep ranting about the importance of accepting things on faith, denigrate reason, dangle carrots and sticks, and demand unconditional surrender in return for guaranteed bliss and salvation. The masses toe the line, support the clergy’s lavish parasitic lifestyle and the charade continues. It works like a charm. Use the Jihad of the sword when it can and use the “Soft Jihad” until the sword can be unsheathed to finish the job. And don’t forget, the end justifies any and all means, Islam apologists keep on preaching to the hordes.

Islam apologists never present the naked face of Islam. They never speak of the Islam that thrives on hate, throws acid in the face of women who fail to don the hijab or girls going to school; flogging people for sporting non-Islamic haircuts, stoning to death, violators of sexual norms and other forms of Islamic brutalities such as Honor Killing. They never talk about institutionalized pedophilia in Islam.

The prophet Muhammad “married” a six-year old child and consummated the marriage when Ayesha was only nine, when he himself was pushing sixty. When apologists are confronted with this repulsive behavior of the founder of their “perfect religion,” a few exercise the defense mechanism of denial and say it did not happen, dismissing their own most trusted historical record. Some say that it wasn’t exactly marriage. It was a politically expedient act, an act of the perfect emissary of Allah. Then we have numerous instances of the same child molestation happening in the Islamic world ever since the example set by Muhammad. It is a kind of marriage of pre-pubescent girls to older men. It was not long ago, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, issued a fatwa proclaiming that there is no minimum age for marriage, and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.”

Adding insult to injury, Islam has powerful and unwitting allies in the masses of good-hearted gullible Americans who bend over backwards to protect the long cherished principle of religious freedom. And it is this magnificent provision of our society that made Hillary Clinton, for example, reissue a visa to the likes of Tariq Ramadan who come to exploit the benign provisions of a benevolent system for establishing Islamic enslavement.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:29

The Fraud of Islam

POST 5 Section 4 - Political Islam

Islam is political to the core. In Islam the mosque and State are one and the same—the mosque is the State.

This arrangement goes back to the days of Muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even the “moderate” Islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds when allah's rules are followed..

Muslims that follow islam's rules believe that all non-Muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well deserve being maltreated compared to believers.

A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in liberty. Everything is up to Allah, so says Mohammad.

Everything that a Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah. It is for this reason that the phrase Enshallah (Allah willing) always accompanies any promise or commitment that a believer makes.

By embracing Muhammad as the unerring and eternal emissary of Allah, a Muslim surrenders his liberty to decide for himself.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:29

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POST 5 Section 5 - Islamics and Liberty

A Muslim’s surrender of liberty is not merely a matter of personal choice. Muslims abandon their most precious rights and those who follow their teachings are out to make all non-Muslims also do so, by hook or crook. It is said that misery loves company. And the type of misery that the fraud of Islam has visited on Muslims and the Islamic lands is a rapidly spreading plague that must be resisted by all who cherish their God-given liberty.

In spite of massive propaganda by Islamic organizations, more and more people are beginning to recognize Islam for what it is: A Fraud.

I challenge all cultural Muslims or any other kind of Muslim who is not a jihadist, to courageously do what is right, and take that fateful step; inhale the life—nurturing fragrance of freedom, abandon the fraud of Islam altogether and enlist in the ranks of the free where all members of the human tribe can live in peace and harmony.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: History, Methods and Objectives

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 15:30

POST 7 Section 6 - Maturely Supported Rebuttals (free of excuses, diversions and made up content)

Will be posted when they arrive

Under consideration - Not yet approved
editor wrote: Hooray - Finally some truth about islam instead of the old Q-Dance
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby RealWoman » 29 Dec 2011, 15:45

Hooray another fucking Islam thread! Just what the forum needed!
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Romero » 29 Dec 2011, 15:52

I don't believe cc would consider that as a Well Supported Rebuttal.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Romero » 29 Dec 2011, 15:52

Oh crap, I did it too!
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Romero » 29 Dec 2011, 16:13

cc la tarte wrote:If one believes in the good parts of RCism, Buddhism and / or ANY beliefs, Good On Em I say!!!

Romero wrote:Islam?

cc la tarte wrote:Of course.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 16:37

"in the good parts" ....... of course .... I'm EXTREMELY tolerant of good things

That is, SOME of the lines BEFORE it took a serious 180 on the trip from Mecca to Medina and continued in the new retrograde direction ever since the Medina day ... up to and including today

In a few days it went from sweetness and roses to slaughter, subjugation. misogyny, supremacy ... and never looked back .... even going so far as to obliterating those few good lines forever by abrogating / overriding them with slaughter supremacy lines

What is your point? The above post seems kind of desperate to prove something. What is it that you are trying to prove exactly?

Is this some kinds of wierd left-handed ;) from outer space rebuttal to my OP?
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby asal » 29 Dec 2011, 17:09

Does anyone have the courage to post an anti christian thread? :) I don't, and if I did it wouldn't be as well written as CC's post. But Islam is kind of a safe target because we don't live in an Islamic country. I understand the frustrations with Islam, and I am looking forward to reading the rest. I never heard before that Khadija was Mohamad's employer. Was that passed down in Hadith?
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby RealWoman » 29 Dec 2011, 17:17

Even if you talk about the obvious hypocrisy of a religion like Catholicism, it turns into a discussion about Islam. cc is a fuckin' one note.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 17:20

Hi asal: .... Anyone is free to post anti-Xian material. Hell, it is everywhere, here, newspapers, blogs, websites, all over the MSmedia ....

it has been the religion to "crucify" for the last cpl of decades
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Berry Sweet » 29 Dec 2011, 17:24

The people of Islam should all huddle together and let off a bomb and all kill eachother. That way they can all escape this world and the men can all have their 72 virgins, and their misery of being stupid and arrogant can just stop.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby extralegs2000 » 29 Dec 2011, 18:15

asal wrote:I never heard before that Khadija was Mohamad's employer. Was that passed down in Hadith?

She was his employer. She was a rich widow. He was a poor member of a great family. She looked with favour upon him, and saw his many great qualities. She then hired him to run her trading caravans for her. He did it very successfully indeed, and she then married him. That was a great turning point in his life. Thereafter, many doors opened for him, and he became a rich and respected and very shrewd trader and merchant. He actually belonged to the capitalist class, but when he turned against the idols in Mecca, the rich capitalists, of whom he had been one, turned against him, because the idols brought people to the Kaaba, and the people brought trade, commerce, and money.
But the good qualities of the Prophet were noticed and admired from the very beginning. He must have been a phenomenally charismatic individual, who made a profound impression on people. He soon earned the name 'Al Amin', or the Trustworthy. People were struck by his methodical, deliberate and sensible ways. The impetus he gave to the Faith was so strong that it spread to the very edges of the known world, before exhausting that impetus.
No small achievement, I'd say. In fact nobody in the whole World comes even close to the influence he exerted on the planet. And that influence continues to grow, phenomenally. If you measure greatness by influence, then he was a giant amongst giants.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby cc la tarte » 29 Dec 2011, 18:34

RealWoman wrote:Even if you talk about the obvious hypocrisy of a religion like Catholicism, it turns into a discussion about Islam.
I guess you missed the title here. It was "The FRAUD of ISLAM"

It is about islam
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Gary Oak » 29 Dec 2011, 21:55

Fast Facts On Islam is a book everyone should read :drinks:
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Gunta » 29 Dec 2011, 22:32

If Muhammad could have a child bride, why can't all Muslims...oh wait, they can. No scam here.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby RealWoman » 29 Dec 2011, 22:52

cc la tarte wrote:
RealWoman wrote:Even if you talk about the obvious hypocrisy of a religion like Catholicism, it turns into a discussion about Islam.
I guess you missed the title here. It was "The FRAUD of ISLAM"

It is about islam

NO WAY!

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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby EU » 30 Dec 2011, 07:53

asal wrote: But Islam is kind of a safe target




Uh no kidding...even that fckin idiot Gary can hit the target on this one
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Shen Li » 30 Dec 2011, 08:47

CC,

You`re an Islamophobe!! Just kidding, I have no rebuttal. All the monotheistic religions are a sick joke. I can see why Gunta favours Buddhism...with a small side order of RC.
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Gary Oak » 30 Dec 2011, 09:14

If all the monotheistic religions are a sick joke then which pantheon do you believe in ?
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Shen Li » 30 Dec 2011, 09:22

Gary Oak wrote:If all the monotheistic religions are a sick joke then which pantheon do you believe in ?

Didn`t that jesus guy say aomething like you can`t worship both God and money? If he was true, then I choose the more powerful one...the latter! :eyebrow:
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby cc la tarte » 30 Dec 2011, 13:05

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The Fraud of Islam

All sections (the whole article) posted are together sequentially at the beginning of the thread ... posted periodically until all 5 sections are posted.

POST 2 Section 2 - Mind Control

As humans, our two legs move us along, but it is our minds that tell us which path to take in life and what to do. As the mind commands so goes the person. Yet, for humans, the mind does not arrive in this world with a set program of instructions. Contrary to many beliefs, we are born neither as demons nor as angels. Within each one of us is a potential for a demon or an angel. Many evolve into a mix of the two, a few fortunate mature into truly angelic and some become personifications of evil. It is the mind’s program that plays the critical role in making us what we are

Islam, from its inception, discovered the crucial secret of getting to the young mind early by adhering to the dictum: Instruction in early childhood is akin to carving in a rock. In the same vein goes the Jesuit saying, “Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man,” derived from the philosophy and theology of Saint Augustine. The immense importance of getting early to the young mind is also emphasized by non-religious doctrines as diverse as the Freudian psychoanalytic theory and Watsonian Behaviorist psychology.

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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Lochdubh » 30 Dec 2011, 13:08

RealWoman wrote:Hooray another fucking Islam thread! Just what the forum needed!



The food in this restaurant sucks!


And the portions are so small!

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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Lochdubh » 30 Dec 2011, 13:12

asal wrote:Does anyone have the courage to post an anti christian thread? :) I don't, and if I did it wouldn't be as well written as CC's post. But Islam is kind of a safe target because we don't live in an Islamic country. I understand the frustrations with Islam, and I am looking forward to reading the rest. I never heard before that Khadija was Mohamad's employer. Was that passed down in Hadith?



I grew up as a Christian, and I think organized religion is ballocks. It's funny to watch the professional "people of faith" gather to try to plug the holes in the dyke. I particularly enjoy the "all relgions are equally" discussions. Even poor old dopey Prince Charles and the bearded weirdo Archbishop of Canterbury are on board with this tripe. :D
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Re: The FRAUD of ISLAM: Its History, Methods and Objecti

Unread postby Lochdubh » 30 Dec 2011, 13:14

EU wrote:
asal wrote: But Islam is kind of a safe target




Uh no kidding...even that fckin idiot Gary can hit the target on this one



Tell that to Salman Rushdie, Theo van Gogh, and the Danish "bomb-Mohammed" cartoonists. :)
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POST 2 Section 2 - Mind Control


This sounds like MK Ultra
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