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[Gary Oak]

Mister Mary keeps warning us to WATCH EUROPE ! ......SSSOOOOOO..... the there must be some evidence that we must WATCH EUROPE ! WHAT IS EUROPE DOING ? WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO WATCH EUROPE !:scared: please enlighten us Mister Mary We all are waiting for your well informed information Go on boy....speak up When is the European invasion date ?

[Lochdubh]

"Europe"

[Shen Li]

Europe is toast.

[Mad Serb]

Europe is toast.

Canada is toast too:

[Spartacus]

Europe is toast.

It's definitly going to be a Basket Case for long long time.

[Shen Li]

Europe is toast.

It's definitly going to be a Basket Case for long long time.

Europe is facing a demographic nightmare in the future. It`s influence will wane.

[Mad Serb]

Europe is facing a demographic nightmare in the future.

There are (or will be soon) plenty of children being born in Europe, but that actually may cause great friction between elders and the new generation. Mething consumption of alcohol is going to plummet in the coming decades

[Spartacus]

Europe is facing a demographic nightmare in the future.

There are (or will be soon) plenty of children being born in Europe, but that actually may cause great friction between elders and the new generation. Mething consumption of alcohol is going to plummet in the coming decades

But the Children will be mostly Muslim, so I'm not sure how this is going to play out in the no too distant future. It will depend on how much of a grasp the Muslim faith can continue to influence the younger generation.

[Lochdubh]

I thought all this global warming shit was caused by too many people. the only reason they need more Europeans is because the social safety nets there are Ponzi schemes in need of more suckers to keep them afloat. spain has (and will have ) 20%+ unemployment.

[Matlock1]

Mister Mary keeps warning us to WATCH EUROPE ! ......SSSOOOOOO..... the there must be some evidence that we must WATCH EUROPE ! WHAT IS EUROPE DOING ? WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO WATCH EUROPE !:scared: please enlighten us Mister Mary We all are waiting for your well informed information Go on boy....speak up When is the European invasion date ?

Is that really YOU, numbnuts? Welcome back from well deserved oblivion. I suppose you're now going to shower this site with more shit ... like your pal The Dummy.

By the way idiot, who said anything about a European invasion? Certainly not me but that is no reason for you and your liar pal to ignore the storm gathering over the horizon ... where, for centuries the major problems have always originated. Or do you just not get it?

I mean, I know you and your obnoxious and hatefull best pal are dumb ... but are you really that dumb?

[Gary Oak]

Mister Mary keeps warning us to WATCH EUROPE ! ......SSSOOOOOO..... the there must be some evidence that we must WATCH EUROPE ! WHAT IS EUROPE DOING ? WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO WATCH EUROPE !:scared: please enlighten us Mister Mary We all are waiting for your well informed information Go on boy....speak up When is the European invasion date ?

Well Mister Mary, you keep saying WATCH EUROPE ! without EVER having any actual information as to why we should watch Europe. Now Mary Moronic you keep calling people dummies, idiots etc....and this implies that you are smarter now it is my belief that smarts = IQ + knowledge and as your IQ is interchangeable with your shoe size and you never have any actual knowledge about anything then you Mister Mary are in no position to call anybody stupid. I started this Watch Europe thread as you are too stupid and lazy to start it yourself to give you a chance to inform everyone why we should watch Europe as you keep saying. You might have noticed that Conan is capable of backing his assertions with quotes from people like Fadden the former head of CSIS.

Speak up Mister Mary, here's your chance

[Shen Li]

^^ How could anyone seriously believe Europe`s power, influence and share of world GDP will increase??

[ConanDoyle]

what say you mary..its your topic..here's the mic
oh and those crazy shorts with your socks on inside your sandals look great BTW
fat'Boy

[Matlock1]

^^ How could anyone seriously believe Europe`s power, influence and share of world GDP will increase??

With Germany, in a defacto sense, running European affairs their influence will grow exponentialy. Pay attention and try your hardest to refrain from the distraction of China.

In case you haven't noticed the ONLY member of the EU not facing imminent fiscal disaster is Germany. In fact Germany is now bankrolling the rest of the EU ... which puts Germany in the drivers seat with regard to major European affairs. All other member are forced to kowtow to Germany (the Fourth Reich) or face ruin. This is tantamount to consolidation of power and control of the entire EU which will soon be expressed outwardly. The EU will become smaller in the near future with the expulsion or otherwise removal of some members but it will not vanish as the naysayers like to think. The EU, with Germany essentially running the show, will streamline and become far more efficient than present and eventually become a power to rival and dwarf all others. I would have nothing to say on the matter ... if history didn't have such a nasty way of repeating itself.

Pay attention!

[Matlock1]

what say you mary..its your topic..here's the mic
oh and those crazy shorts with your socks on inside your sandals look great BTW
fat'Boy

Watch that line asshole ... you're getting very close. I'd be a little more carefull if I were you!

Thief!

[Shen Li]

^^ How could anyone seriously believe Europe`s power, influence and share of world GDP will increase??

With Germany, in a defacto sense, running European affairs their influence will grow exponentialy. Pay attention and try your hardest to refrain from the distraction of China.

In case you haven't noticed the ONLY member of the EU not facing imminent fiscal disaster is Germany. In fact Germany is now bankrolling the rest of the EU ... which puts Germany in the drivers seat with regard to major European affairs. All other member are forced to kowtow to Germany (the Fourth Reich) or face ruin. This is tantamount to consolidation of power and control of the entire EU which will soon be expressed outwardly. The EU will become smaller in the near future with the expulsion or otherwise removal of some members but it will not vanish as the naysayers like to think. The EU, with Germany essentially running the show, will streamline and become far more efficient than present and eventually become a power to rival and dwarf all others. I would have nothing to say on the matter ... if history didn't have such a nasty way of repeating itself.

Pay attention!

Germany only looks good when compared to the other feckless members of the EU.

Germany is Europe’s strongest economy. Yet even its Purchasing Manager’s Index (PMI) fell to 46.2 in April from 48.4 in March. Any number below 50 indicates recessionary contraction. So the further plunge in its PMI has even Europe’s strongest economy sitting on the edge of a potential recession.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-i ... z1twQnjt6o

[Matlock1]

With Germany, in a defacto sense, running European affairs their influence will grow exponentialy. Pay attention and try your hardest to refrain from the distraction of China.

In case you haven't noticed the ONLY member of the EU not facing imminent fiscal disaster is Germany. In fact Germany is now bankrolling the rest of the EU ... which puts Germany in the drivers seat with regard to major European affairs. All other member are forced to kowtow to Germany (the Fourth Reich) or face ruin. This is tantamount to consolidation of power and control of the entire EU which will soon be expressed outwardly. The EU will become smaller in the near future with the expulsion or otherwise removal of some members but it will not vanish as the naysayers like to think. The EU, with Germany essentially running the show, will streamline and become far more efficient than present and eventually become a power to rival and dwarf all others. I would have nothing to say on the matter ... if history didn't have such a nasty way of repeating itself.

Pay attention!

Germany only looks good when compared to the other feckless members of the EU.

Germany is Europe’s strongest economy. Yet even its Purchasing Manager’s Index (PMI) fell to 46.2 in April from 48.4 in March. Any number below 50 indicates recessionary contraction. So the further plunge in its PMI has even Europe’s strongest economy sitting on the edge of a potential recession.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-i ... z1twQnjt6o

Who the hell cares what the opinions of a third party happen to be? And, for that matter why does it matter? Germany is in the unfinished process of amalgamating and consolidating its power. In order to do that it must of necessity have an "inward" stance and perspective. Nevertheless Germany already has the ability, and uses it, to force changes to the very constitutions, the founding documentation and structure of formerly sovereign nations by parachuting, as it were, its own ministers and operatives into the inner working of foreign governments in order to ensure required changes. This will continue until the EU takes its final form and becomes unstoppable. You may think this is necessary in order to bail out floundering and insolvent nations but it is an abrogation of sovereignty in everything but name only. It's the kind of thing that if left unchecked will leave Germany in control of an entire continent. They have tried this before, twice within living memory and are about to do it again ... this time without firing a shot.

Why aren't you paying attention?

[Matlock1]

Gary isn't particularly bright and that is more than evident in how he entitled this thread. Instead of questioning my argument to "watch Europe" he has made an exclamatory statement rather than an interogative expression of reproach. It could be argued that the numbskull actually agrees, even if unconsciously, that watching Europe is a good idea.

[Shen Li]

Germany only looks good when compared to the other feckless members of the EU.

Who the hell cares what the opinions of a third party happen to be? And, for that matter why does it matter? Germany is in the unfinished process of amalgamating and consolidating its power. In order to do that it must of necessity have an "inward" stance and perspective. Nevertheless Germany already has the ability, and uses it, to force changes to the very constitutions, the founding documentation and structure of formerly sovereign nations by parachuting, as it were, its own ministers and operatives into the inner working of foreign governments in order to ensure required changes. This will continue until the EU takes its final form and becomes unstoppable. You may think this is necessary in order to bail out floundering and insolvent nations but it is an abrogation of sovereignty in everything but name only. It's the kind of thing that if left unchecked will leave Germany in control of an entire continent. They have tried this before, twice within living memory and are about to do it again ... this time without firing a shot.

Why aren't you paying attention?

Everyone should care, Germany is only the best of the worst. You really overrate it`s economic prospects.

German workers saw their wages (after inflation) actually fall by 4% in the 2000s, so they were hardly in a position to consume a growing proportion of those products turned out by German businesses. Which means that the country exported more to the go-go economies of the south of Europe, and lent Spain, Greece and the rest the cash to buy their goods. Put in simple terms, it's a bit like buying a kitchen and the showroom arranging a loan so you can make the purchase. And German banks were only too happy to shovel credit to the countries that couldn't really afford to buy all this stuff. In effect, Germany blew the bubbles that popped up in the rest of Europe.

When a borrowing crisis comes along, it's better to be the bank than the debtor, which is why Germany (like China, which has played a similar game) is so lauded now. But if the eurozone crisis is to be sorted out, continental governments need to recognise that Germany's business model can't continue to rely so heavily on lending and selling abroad. As Engelbert Stockhammer of Kingston University points out, it would make more sense for German workers to be taken off their strictly rationed wages, than for Greece, Spain and Portugal to be consigned to their own regional great depression.

Two conclusions flow: first, the problems of the eurozone are way bigger than a few small countries that spent too much. And second, Germany isn't a cut-out-and-keep model of how to manage a sound, socially just economy. We need to think a bit harder
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... omy-europe

None of this even takes into consideration the demographic problems Germany faces.

[Matlock1]

Who the hell cares what the opinions of a third party happen to be? And, for that matter why does it matter? Germany is in the unfinished process of amalgamating and consolidating its power. In order to do that it must of necessity have an "inward" stance and perspective. Nevertheless Germany already has the ability, and uses it, to force changes to the very constitutions, the founding documentation and structure of formerly sovereign nations by parachuting, as it were, its own ministers and operatives into the inner working of foreign governments in order to ensure required changes. This will continue until the EU takes its final form and becomes unstoppable. You may think this is necessary in order to bail out floundering and insolvent nations but it is an abrogation of sovereignty in everything but name only. It's the kind of thing that if left unchecked will leave Germany in control of an entire continent. They have tried this before, twice within living memory and are about to do it again ... this time without firing a shot.

Why aren't you paying attention?

Everyone should care, Germany is only the best of the worst. You really overrate it`s economic prospects.

German workers saw their wages (after inflation) actually fall by 4% in the 2000s, so they were hardly in a position to consume a growing proportion of those products turned out by German businesses. Which means that the country exported more to the go-go economies of the south of Europe, and lent Spain, Greece and the rest the cash to buy their goods. Put in simple terms, it's a bit like buying a kitchen and the showroom arranging a loan so you can make the purchase. And German banks were only too happy to shovel credit to the countries that couldn't really afford to buy all this stuff. In effect, Germany blew the bubbles that popped up in the rest of Europe.

When a borrowing crisis comes along, it's better to be the bank than the debtor, which is why Germany (like China, which has played a similar game) is so lauded now. But if the eurozone crisis is to be sorted out, continental governments need to recognise that Germany's business model can't continue to rely so heavily on lending and selling abroad. As Engelbert Stockhammer of Kingston University points out, it would make more sense for German workers to be taken off their strictly rationed wages, than for Greece, Spain and Portugal to be consigned to their own regional great depression.

Two conclusions flow: first, the problems of the eurozone are way bigger than a few small countries that spent too much. And second, Germany isn't a cut-out-and-keep model of how to manage a sound, socially just economy. We need to think a bit harder
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... omy-europe

None of this even takes into consideration the demographic problems Germany faces.

My comments have focused on Germany but it is not an entirely German situation, rather it's a European matter. Germany is merely the strongest member of a collection of 27 EU members. As the economic engine sustaining Europe, Germany, provides advantages and if Europe were still a collection of individual states contantly at war with itself those advantages would not be apparent. Don't forget, Europe is all but fully united as a nation with former sovereign nations now as states within a collective. This is as America was before becoming the UNITED States of America with the wealth, power and influence coming from that union. The EU will become smaller, with fewer member than now. The least fiscally stable will either leave on their own or be forced out. Greece is all but gone and others will follow. Great Britain, a lukewarm member at best, will leave.

cont.

[Matlock1]

Demographic problems, if indeed they can be defined as such will gradually disappear when a new found nationalism takes hold under the auspices of inspired leadership. In fact one of the few things mssing from the whole European/German mix right now, today, is precisely that inspired leadership. All too often we have seen where inspirational leadership can take Germany ... and this time could be different from previous experiences. This time said leadership could affect ALL Europe once a defined goal and purpose for the new power is expressed and accepted by a willing populace. Again, I would have nothing to say in this matter if we had not been in this same situation before. Leadership, whether for good or bad is the biggest thing missing right now and who knows where it will come from for Europe in the future or, indeed who will provide it.

[ConanDoyle]

zzzzzz= Europe

go back to sleep

[Matlock1]

zzzzzz= Europe

go back to sleep

Well, ya dumb lying old fool, you handed me the mic and I responded as requested. It's high time you stepped up to the plate, acknowledged (and responded to) the countless questions you have been asked and for once in your life, just this once, to be honest.

Can you do it? Do you have the courage?

[mimi]

:unsure: "Europe"

"Europe"

[Shen Li]

Matlock, as I`ve already shown Germany only looks good when compared to the anaemic growth of the other EU nations. Unless you know something that every economist doesn`t the truth is Europe is in the midst of an irreversible decline.

[ConanDoyle]

the poor stubborn bluntNut wont part with his pathetic pride [the ignoramus's ego is torn and trampled asunder as we hear wails of sobs coming from behind the sofa] ...you know what they'say: .............Pride Goes Before a Fall

he just did a face plant and broke his glasses to boot.

Europe is doomed to be yesterdays'girl
Gawd I like that saying

[ConanDoyle]

watch Europe's election results, specially France and Greece to see just how far the head is shoved into the toilet.

[Matlock1]

Matlock, as I`ve already shown Germany only looks good when compared to the anaemic growth of the other EU nations. Unless you know something that every economist doesn`t the truth is Europe is in the midst of an irreversible decline.

Silly ... You are referring to what Europe looks like right now while I speak of Europe in the near future. There is an enormous difference that you (and The Dummy) should be aware of.

Watch Europe.

[Matlock1]

zzzzzz= Europe

go back to sleep

Well, ya dumb lying old fool, you handed me the mic and I responded as requested. It's high time you stepped up to the plate, acknowledged (and responded to) the countless questions you have been asked and for once in your life, just this once, to be honest.

Can you do it? Do you have the courage?

Still waiting for that manly display of courage. Where is it?

[J0E]

Europe is toast.

But China needs Europe, as it is Europe's largest trading partner, exceeding even the United States.

So if Europe goes down, not good for China.