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[mimi]

All we need is a little common sense.

ROCKAWAY TOWNSHIP, NJ - We are scared for Steven Hopler.

On Friday, Judge Thomas Manahan ruled that the blind gun enthusiast may keep the six handguns he still has in his home, but he must store them in a safe pending an evaluation of his alcohol use.

Four years back, Hopler accidentally shot himself in the shin while cleaning one of his guns, according to nj.com. Police say that while he was in hospital, a tenant in the two-family home broke into his apartment with some accomplices and stole 12 handguns and two shotguns.

Police recovered eight guns but kept them “for safekeeping following him shooting himself. Now, they are being held because we are seeking their forfeiture,” Jeffrey Paul, a spokesman for Morris County prosecutor Robert Bianchi, told the site.

A prosecutor's office had asked a judge to revoke Hopler's gun permit and seize all guns in his possession arguing that he was a drunk and posed a danger to others, the news site says.

Judge Manahan ordered Hopler, 47, to complete a course dealing with the maintenance and care of weapons.

[kiebers]

True. A drunk does not need to play with guns. But then again they have done more damage with cars when drunk. I guess alcohol is a worse legal drug than a certain other illegal drug.

[mimi]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

[Sharlee]

I guess the big question is if you're going to draw a line on who can have guns, how do you determine where to draw it? There are lots of alcoholics and druggies who have guns and we don't take them away. If the issue is that this guy is blind, it would make more sense to me to prohibit him from obtaining ammo.

[mimi]

I'm not very good at determining exactly where lines should be drawn....but I'd start with blind people who shoot themselves in the shin.

[Sharlee]

Point taken! I guess I'm just thinking that if we walk in and start taking people's personal property away even if they haven't committed a crime with it, we're treading on thin ice. I agree that the possibility of further injury to himself or others is huge, but as kiebers pointed out, people injure others with cars all the time, yet we don't waltz in and take their cars away. I'd be in favour of keeping him from purchasing ammo but would let him keep the guns.

[Renee]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

Ever see the average cop qualify on a range?

At least blindness would be a valid excuse.

[Keeper]

:D Point taken! I guess I'm just thinking that if we walk in and start taking people's personal property away even if they haven't committed a crime with it, we're treading on thin ice. I agree that the possibility of further injury to himself or others is huge, but as kiebers pointed out, people injure others with cars all the time, yet we don't waltz in and take their cars away. I'd be in favour of keeping him from purchasing ammo but would let him keep the guns.

Thats like owning a fish finder and not letting him have the boat, Why bother teasing him.

[SMP]

I don't like that the Judge mentioned alcohol use as well. I think his guns should go or she should be supervised when in possession?

[GranpaP]

Forget blindness. Moronic leptons such SiMPle should not own guns either.

[Mad Serb]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

Well, a person without a driving licence can own a car, but cannot drive it.

[kiebers]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

Well, a person without a driving licence can own a car, but cannot drive it.

Legally.

You know whats odd is...if you google the story the first page only shows articles from Canada. I searched the news section of google and same thing.

[Rotwang]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

Ever see the average cop qualify on a range?

At least blindness would be a valid excuse.

Oh, so now the portulent porchette is an expert on police training.

Is that because you, too, are a pig?

[GAMBINO]

hahahaha

[Scooter]

probably just a fan of Mike & Molly

[mimi]

I just noticed, that the I missed the headline of this story.

Blind gunman can keep guns:

Well, a person without a driving licence can own a car, but cannot drive it.

Well if he shot himself in the shin, I'd say he's driving it. =))))

[Rotwang]

The question should not be "Why shouldn't this person have a gun"?

It should be "Why SHOULD this person have a gun"?

The answer in this case is rather obvious.

[GAMBINO]

he should mount a gattling gun on his blind dog

[Renee]

Oh, so now the portulent porchette is an expert on police training.

Oh I wouldn't call myself an expert. But being that I lived under the parental rules of a twice decorated police officer for over 20 years and personally competed in NRA Bull’s-eye competitions against various officers of the law and was privy to police qualification courses more than a few times, I think I can safely assume I know more about law enforcement firearms training than a lot of people, least of all YOU.

Is that because you, too, are a pig?

Yeah, yeah, more cheap shots from the geezer, no surprise here. The only thing that flaps more than your gums is the loose skin hanging from your ass when you walk. But hey, I'll let your verbal abuse slide because I know you're quite upset over the closing down of the only gay massage parlor within battery range of your power chair.

Now shut the fuck up and stop humping my leg, you old gas bag.

[cc la tarte]

I know you're quite upset over the closing down of the only gay massage parlor within battery range of your power chair.

[MooGooMouse]

Don't you feel safe in a country where more & more people have nothing to lose but can own a gun?

[dick yamada]

Guns don't stop bullets. People do.

[kiebers]

Guns don't start bullets on their path. People do.

[dick yamada]

True...and one can stop those people with a well-aimed bullet. But guns do have their deficiencies.

[dick yamada]

You know whats odd is...if you google the story the first page only shows articles from Canada. I searched the news section of google and same thing.

That's Google for you. Refines your search without being asked. These guys seem to give a better search, as they include but are not limited to, Google.

http://www.dogpile.com/

[Oscar Mayer]

there's always the nut between the wheel and the seat

[kiebers]

Oh, so now the portulent porchette is an expert on police training.

Oh I wouldn't call myself an expert. But being that I lived under the parental rules of a twice decorated police officer for over 20 years and personally competed in NRA Bull’s-eye competitions against various officers of the law and was privy to police qualification courses more than a few times, I think I can safely assume I know more about law enforcement firearms training than a lot of people, least of all YOU.

Is that because you, too, are a pig?

Yeah, yeah, more cheap shots from the geezer, no surprise here. The only thing that flaps more than your gums is the loose skin hanging from your ass when you walk. But hey, I'll let your verbal abuse slide because I know you're quite upset over the closing down of the only gay massage parlor within battery range of your power chair.

Now shut the fuck up and stop humping my leg, you old gas bag.

Oh shit Renee, you just had to open that door. Sigh.....Now I get to hear all about his gun experiences....again.

[Oscar Mayer]

Oh I wouldn't call myself an expert. But being that I lived under the parental rules of a twice decorated police officer for over 20 years and personally competed in NRA Bull’s-eye competitions against various officers of the law and was privy to police qualification courses more than a few times, I think I can safely assume I know more about law enforcement firearms training than a lot of people, least of all YOU.



Yeah, yeah, more cheap shots from the geezer, no surprise here. The only thing that flaps more than your gums is the loose skin hanging from your ass when you walk. But hey, I'll let your verbal abuse slide because I know you're quite upset over the closing down of the only gay massage parlor within battery range of your power chair.

Now shut the fuck up and stop humping my leg, you old gas bag.

Oh shit Renee, you just had to open that door. Sigh.....Now I get to hear all about his gun experiences....again.

You have to listen to fuck all here amigo. Ban keeps the door open at BAS all the time just for you, Ratwang and your other buddy.

[mimi]

Guns don't start bullets on their path. People do.

People might start less, if they didn't have a gun.

[Leopardsocks]

Oh shit Renee, you just had to open that door. Sigh.....Now I get to hear all about his gun experiences....again.

Hey, the mouthy megalodon started it...

Oh I wouldn't call myself an expert.

Neither would I.

But being that I lived under the parental rules of a twice decorated police officer for over 20 years and personally competed in NRA Bull’s-eye competitions against various officers of the law and was privy to police qualification courses more than a few times, I think I can safely assume I know more about law enforcement firearms training than a lot of people, least of all YOU.

Ooops.

I guess you missed the part where I served AS a police officer for 25 years, including a tour of duty in the Anti-Terrorist squad (aka SWAT in your language). And a couple of years in the military. So, while daddy's little (little? what am I saying...) girl was playing party games with pea shooters, or hanging with gun freaks, your correspondent was at the front line, operating under a "shoot-to-kill" mandate. Our targets weren't cardboard cut outs, twinkie dink. So, I think your safe assumptions just went Code Red. Have another cake to ease your pain.

Yeah, yeah, more cheap shots from the geezer, no surprise here. The only thing that flaps more than your gums is the loose skin hanging from your ass when you walk. But hey, I'll let your verbal abuse slide because I know you're quite upset over the closing down of the only gay massage parlor within battery range of your power chair.

Now shut the fuck up and stop humping my leg, you old gas bag.

Well, you got me there...I'm damn sure there's no excess skin around your humungous hide to flap.

I'm not that hysterical over the closure of my massage parlour. There will be others. On the other hand, I'll bet you're still looking for one that offers heavy lifting equipment, and discount for large orders.