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Hong Kong up to Guangzhow and back down to Macao along the Pearl River delta and the surrounding towns already is like one gigantic city including the neighbouring towns.

China's future megacities to eclipse population of most countries

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I don't see why ChIna doesn't also declare all of Canada as part of China as Dr Li has a very dubious claim of finding a MIng dynasty coin on the east coast and another equally dubious coin was found in the Yukon Territories. I do believe that this is the purpose of t hese dubious coin finds. So why wait. INternational law apparently doesn't apply to China.

China says it could declare air zone over South China Sea

BEIJING, China - China warned other countries Wednesday against threatening its security in the South China Sea after an international tribunal handed the Philippines a victory by saying Beijing had no legal basis for its expansive claims there.

Vice Foreign Minister Liu Zhenmin said Beijing could declare an air defence identification zone over the waters if it felt threatened, a move that would sharply escalate tensions. But Beijing also extended an olive branch to the new Philippine government, saying the Southeast Asian nation would benefit from co-operating with China.

The Philippines, under a U.N. treaty governing the seas, had sought arbitration in 2013 on several issues related to its long-running territorial disputes with China. In its ruling Tuesday, the tribunal found China's far-reaching claims to the South China Sea had no legal basis and that Beijing had violated the Philippines' maritime rights by building up artificial islands and disrupting fishing and oil exploration.

While introducing a policy paper in response to the ruling, Liu said the islands in the South China Sea were China's "inherent territory" and blamed the Philippines for stirring up trouble.

"If our security is being threatened, of course we have the right to demarcate a zone. This would depend on our overall assessment," Liu said in a briefing. "We hope that other countries will not take this opportunity to threaten China and work with China to protect the peace and stability of the South China Sea, and not let it become the origin of a war."

In 2013, China set up an air defence identification zone over disputed islands in the East China Sea, requiring all aircraft entering the area to notify Chinese authorities or be subjected to "emergency military measures" if they disobey orders from Beijing. The U.S. and others refuse to recognize the zone.

While blaming the previous Philippine government for complicating the dispute by seeking arbitration, Liu said China remains committed to negotiations with the Philippines and noted new Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's positive remarks on the issue.

"After the storm of this arbitration has passed, and the sky has cleared, we hope this day (of negotiations) will come quickly, but whether it can come, we still have to wait," Liu said, adding that China believed that co-operation would also bring Filipinos "tangible benefits."

Duterte has not directly responded to China's overtures. He is navigating a tightrope in which he wants to revive relations with Beijing while being seen as defending the major victory the country has won through arbitration.

Former Philippine President Benigno Aquino III, who initiated the case, said the ruling brought clarity that "now establishes better conditions that enable countries to engage each other, bearing in mind their duties and rights within a context that espouses equality and amity."

Co-operation, however, would remain elusive if conflicts over claims persist, he said.

Six regional governments have overlapping claims in the South China Sea, waters that are rich in fishing stocks and potential energy resources and where an estimated $5 trillion in global trade passes each year.

Beijing says vast areas of the South China Sea have been Chinese territory since ancient times and demarcated its modern claims with the so-called nine-dash line, a map that was submitted under the U.N. treaty. The tribunal said any historical resource rights were wiped out if they were incompatible with exclusive economic zones established under the treaty, which both countries have signed.

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There is maybe some 14th century shipwrecks down south from here that might be part of a wrecked Chinese fleet. :think: I think it was 14th century, Zheng He was a great admiral of that fleet.
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I don't believe that. Zhenghe was on a trade mission. He wasn't on an exploration expedition.
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Not sure, looking for trade routs he could have found places like America, it's not like you can just float past it.
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There are no records of any of his fleet going north to even Japan or Korea. Chinese didn't have open water experience then during the early ming dynasty and had ships built to sail along the coast lands. THese trade armadas drained the treasury with just sailing westward.
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He was a major player of the time, he could have unlike many others.
This does not show him going towards America, but does show he was very experienced.

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Crossing the pacific would have been a very different journey. Thanks for posting the map. A picture says a thousand words.
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The north Pacific, and South, but there is some calm in the middle in parts of the year. I think they could have made it alright, but if they did they didn't stay.
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i wouldn't surprised either that there have been boats that have gone missing that made it to the Americas but couldn't have made it back and they couldn't survive there. SOMe may have though like the Mandans and some Polynesians.
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I believe that it really says something that all of Chinas neighbours are being threatened by China with land grab attempts.


Tokyo Provokes Beijing, Demands Adherence to the South China Sea Ruling © AP Photo/ Zha Chunming

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe wasted no time following The Hague’s ruling that China has no legal basis to territory that has long been in its control, a ruling that may also impact Tokyo and Beijing’s longstanding dispute over the Senkaku Islands.

Tokyo increased pressure on Beijing during the Asia-Europe summit on Saturday calling on China to respect an international tribunal’s ruling that dismissed its claims to much of the South China Sea including the disputed Paracel and Spratly islands.


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Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told the assembled leaders that the rule of law was "a universal principle that he international community must firmly maintain," according to Japan’s Jiji Press.

"I strongly hope the parties to the dispute comply with the award and move towards a peaceful solution of the dispute in the South China Sea," he said.

Japan is not one of the six nations that have a claim to the South China Sea territory, but Tokyo does hold a separate dispute with China regarding the Senkaku Islands, known by the Chinese as the Diaoyu Islands.

Tokyo has gone to great lengths under the Abe administration to squelch China’s growing regional influence under Prime Minister Abe who has joined forces with the Obama administration on an unprecedented joint military arrangement that will see the two countries developing weapons for one another. Tokyo has also engaged in increasingly feverish rounds of provocations along China’s eastern flank joined by the United States and Indian naval forces.



The case against China regarding the territorial dispute in the South China Sea was put forward by the Philippines, with the support of the United States, before the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague which ruled that Beijing has no legal basis for its claims which are embodied in a “nine-dash line” from maps dating back to the 1940s and stretches close to other country’s coastal waters.

Japan viewed the decision as a boon for its own territorial dispute with Beijing in the East China Sea, but many legal scholars have already begun picking apart the logic of The Hague ruling pointing to the fact that China has long maintained physical control of the territory.

China boycotted the PCA hearings arguing that the court lacked jurisdiction and reacted furiously vowing to ignore the ruling and arguing that it grossly misinterprets the Law of the Sea Treaty.


China has sought to counter Western meddling in their claim to the South China Sea by building a network of artificial islands capable of supporting military operations, and this week reiterated its right to declare an Air Defense Identification Zone in the area, which would demand civilian flights submit to the authority of its military.

With the ruling from the PCA going against China, the South China Sea region is now a powder keg just waiting to explode as the United States continues to attempt flyovers in the region and Beijing may soon decide that the provocations are too great to ignore.

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ONe of the tactics that CHIna uses in every country is to try and buy all the companies. If everybody is working for CHInese then they control everybody. As our patriotic former head of CSIS said "everything that Chinese do have a military connection"


Did "China" Just Buy The Most Important Company In The World?




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I don't blame them, but do blame others that let them.
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When I was in ChIna I didn't buy or use any honey there as it was all obviously not honey. It was all far too watery so obviously it was heavily doctored up and who knows with what.



More than 75 Percent of All ‘Honey’ Sold in Grocery Stores contains No Honey At All…

Corporate profit takes the front seat again! Even something as natural and historically revered as honey has to be processed until it is no longer the thing it used to be.

Food Safety News conducted tests of honey sold at various outlets in 10 states and the District of Columbia. The honey was analyzed for pollen content by a leading mellisopalynologist (investigator of pollen in honey). The results? 76% of total samples had all pollen removed. 100% of samples packaged in small individual portions had all pollen removed. In contrast, all of the honey bought at farmers markets, co-ops and natural food stores had the full, anticipated, amount of pollen.

Why does this matter? Even the U.S. Food and Drug Administration says that any product that has been ultra-filtered to remove all pollen is not honey. Not that that matters, as the FDA is a good friend to industry and does not actually check for pollen.

Bee pollen is full of protein, vitamins, minerals, lipids, and carbohydrates. Besides this nutritional value, it is said to help with stomach ailments, allergies, anemia, low energy, and other problems. Pollen from flowers is packaged by the honey bees with nectar and enzymes which turns it into a superfood.

The fact that pollen is removed by honey packers seems bizarre, considering that it costs money and reduces quality. One company spokesman said “North American shoppers want their honey crystal clear” (a useless sound bite) and another said “processed honey…lasts longer on the shelves” (admitting it’s about the money).

It is about the money, and it goes far deeper than shelf life. Removing all pollen makes the origin of the “honey” undetectable. This allows packers to take honey from anywhere in the world, including China. A few years ago it was found that imported Chinese honey was contaminated with chloramphenicol and other dangerous animal antibiotics. U.S. packers import about 120 million pounds of honey from Asian countries, several of which are known laundering points for Chinese honey.

Regular filtering to remove bee parts, wax, and debris is a normal process. There is no reason to do ultra-fine filtration except to remove pollen. Without the pollen there is no sure way to tell where honey comes from. The big-name companies like the Sioux Honey Association which markets Sue Bee, Clover Maid, and others do not care to even comment on the issue.

However, Golden Heritage Producers, the nation’s third largest packer, says they take precautions to avoid laundered Chinese honey. A spokesman said, “The brokers know that if there’s an absence of all pollen in the raw honey we won’t buy it, we won’t touch it, because without pollen we have no way to verify its origin.” However, Golden Heritage still removes all pollen in order to, as they say, increase shelf life.

So it seems that the big corporations selling their “honey” on grocery store shelves don’t want pollen in the product. Is it any coincidence that lack of pollen leaves the origin undetectable, and that only one packer said they take precautions to avoid laundered Chinese honey?

It seems a terrible shame to subject honey—an amazing natural product valued for centuries—to the greed of corporate manufacturing, removing the thing that makes it real honey.

We can combat this practice by buying honey made from local beekeepers and buying from packers that pledge their devotion to healthy, pollen-rich honey.

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Never buy Chinese Honey, a lot of it isn't honey at all just flavored with it. A news report years back did a study of it, it was full of toxins, and mostly corn syrup.
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There is a video and a couple graphs that I couldn't open onto this post. One tactic that many are already aware of that China uses to FAN QING FU MING a nation is to flood s many of their citizens in as a fifth column of sorts and many of these will be looking for valuable info to send up the Chinese grapevine. It actually is very possible that ALL of them are agents to some degree.

Chinese flock to America to work for companies they've bought


The number of Chinese expat employees working in the U.S. has spiked dramatically over the last decade, a trend experts say is linked to the explosion in takeovers of American firms.
"We've seen a huge surge," said Bernard Wolfsdorf, founder and managing partner of a U.S.-based immigration law firm. "Chinese companies are investing very heavily in America, and [they are] bringing in key executives and employees."
The U.S. granted 10,258 L-series visas to Chinese workers and their family members in 2015, more than four times the number approved in 2005, according to an analysis of government data by CNNMoney.
The L-1 visa allows companies with U.S. and foreign operations to move staff to America. The opportunity for employees to bring their families over is considered a bonus.

Chinese firms have been on a shopping spree in recent years, spending $17 billion last year alone on 120 deals and investments in the U.S., according to data from Dealogic. This year is turning out to be even bigger -- they've already spent $29.4 billion, and there's no end in sight.
In many instances, Chinese firms are choosing to staff up in America with their own people, said Ron Klasko, a managing partner at Klasko Immigration Law Partners in the U.S.
Many Chinese are interested in finding a ticket out of China, and they've overwhelmed visa programs in the U.S. and other countries. Getting a green card or work visa is one way of escaping heavy pollution, gaining access to better education for their children, and avoiding political and economic turmoil in the country.
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Chinese line up for other visas, too
The U.S. State Department announced in recent months that it would soon stop taking applications for some types of visas from Chinese this year as the numbers have hit annual quotas. One category affected is the EB-1 visa, which aims to help people with extraordinary abilities work in the U.S.
Another visa, the popular EB-5 immigrant investor program, has also been closed to Chinese in the past due to high demand. It grants residency to foreigners who invest at least $500,000 in the U.S.
The number of visas granted annually to Chinese under the investor program has increased from a few dozen a decade ago to 8,156 in 2015, accounting for 85% of the total issued, according to government data compiled by CNNMoney.
"We expect it will continue to increase," said Klasko, who said investors are piling in now in advance of expected changes to the program.
Related: It may get harder for rich Chinese to buy green cards
The controversial EB-5 has been criticized as a way for the rich to buy their way into America. But supporters say it draws vital investment dollars to the U.S.
Still, a series of scandals over mismanaged investments have led U.S. lawmakers to call for greater transparency and accountability, essentially making it harder for Chinese to gain access.

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China appears to be making more headway in their attempted take over of Canada. I expect Justin Trudeau will be on China's side on many issues that he should be on Canada's.

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A country that don't own it's resources is not their own country anymore.
Things like gas, oil, water, and metals should be owned only by native peoples.
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Well Canada has a leader now [ Justin Trudeau ] who is just as against Canadians and Canada as Obama is against the USA and Americans. [ same handlers I believe ]
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Merkel is on his payroll as well. These people need to be hung, and anything they allowed repealed.
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