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Re: Without Conscience - Psychopaths
By Broadmores doctors I may be a psychopath, I'm good with that though, it doesn't matter.
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There’s a lot of kids that I believe don’t need to be on the meds that they have been told to take for some of these new psychological termed maladies. One in a hundred people approximately are psychopathic so there are a lot out there. That kid had no idea what he was getting himself into by pretending to be nuts.
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They don't need all the meds, but some do, our medical system is mostly just pill pushers working for the big pharma anymore.
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A huge ego is a trait of psychopaths and sociopaths so I wonder what effect psilocybin mushrooms would have on them ? Could it normalize them a bit by normalizing their egos ? https://www.sciencealert.com/new-clinic ... e-your-ego
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This makes sense as psychopaths do tend to be intelligent. One person in a hundred is a psychopath so which ones do you know ? They lie, they don’t care about rules, they have huge egos, they don’t feel emotions but learn how to imitate emotions. https://digest.bps.org.uk/2020/08/12/su ... -impulses/
Personality, Psychopathy August 12, 2020
“Successful” Psychopaths Learn To Control Their Antisocial Impulses
By Emma Young
You’ll be familiar with the concept of the “successful psychopath”. Like regular psychopaths, such people are callous and manipulative, self-seeking, and free from guilt — but rather than ending up behind bars, they are able to flourish in their careers.
However, though the concept of the successful psychopath is popular, it’s also contentious. That’s because there’s been a lack of data to substantiate it, or to explain it. But now, ten years after an initial study hinted that levels of the personality trait of conscientiousness might be important for understanding the path to “successful” vs criminal psychopathy, a new study, published in Personality Disorders: Theory, Research and Treatment, provides more robust support for that idea.
The work published back in 2010 started with a survey of psychology and law specialists, criminal attorneys and professors of clinical psychology in the US. These people were asked if they’d ever known someone who matched Robert Hare’s definition of a psychopath, but who was successful in life. If so, they were asked to provide personality and psychopathy assessments for them. One key difference between successful and standard psychopaths emerged: successful psychopaths were reported as having higher levels of conscientiousness. Rather than being impulsive and irresponsible, they seemed to be more self-disciplined and driven to achieve.
This conclusion was based solely on reports of people who thought they knew someone who fitted the bill, however. Now Emily Lasko and David S. Chester at Virginia Commonwealth University have studied relatively successful vs unsuccessful psychopathic individuals directly.
The pair used a total of seven years of data on 1,354 American adolescent offenders for their study. As all of these adolescents had initially committed a serious offence (such as sexual assault or a weapons offence), the “successful” vs “unsuccessful” distinction was tied to re-offending. Adolescents who did not re-offend were classed as “successful”, whereas those who’d re-offended at least once were deemed to be “unsuccessful”. Every six months during the study, the adolescents completed surveys of psychopathic traits and also separate measures of their ability to control their impulses and suppress feelings of aggression, as well as self-reporting any offences.
Lasko and Chester found that participants who’d initially scored highly for grandiose-manipulative psychopathic traits (traits associated with arrogance and self-centredness as well as manipulativeness) went on to show steeper increases over time in two forms of conscientiousness: impulse control and the suppression of aggression. Importantly, this effect was notably larger within the “successful” group. It seems, then, that successful psychopaths are those who show real improvements at controlling their impulses, to achieve their goals. “This exacerbated development of conscientiousness-defining traits is likely able to compensate for the heightened antisocial tendencies of these psychopathic individuals, bringing them into a self-regulatory balance that enables them to function in society,” the researchers write.
The team tried altering the number of re-offences that led to an individual being categorised as successful vs unsuccessful, but this did not materially change the pattern of the results. As an alternative measure of “success”, they also considered whether or not participants were enrolled in school at each time point. The link between conscientiousness-related traits and success held. “This suggests that our findings are likely to generalise across various forms of ‘success’,” the researchers write.
Clearly, more work will be needed to investigate the factors contributing to the development of greater or poorer impulse control, and how to enhance it in this population, perhaps to increase the proportion of relatively successful rather than criminal psychopaths.
Overall, though, the research supports the idea of “successful” vs regular psychopaths, as well as finding evidence for a key difference between the two. “These findings show the importance of the five-factor model to understanding the nuances of psychopathy and its various phenotypes,” the researchers write.
Personality, Psychopathy August 12, 2020
“Successful” Psychopaths Learn To Control Their Antisocial Impulses
By Emma Young
You’ll be familiar with the concept of the “successful psychopath”. Like regular psychopaths, such people are callous and manipulative, self-seeking, and free from guilt — but rather than ending up behind bars, they are able to flourish in their careers.
However, though the concept of the successful psychopath is popular, it’s also contentious. That’s because there’s been a lack of data to substantiate it, or to explain it. But now, ten years after an initial study hinted that levels of the personality trait of conscientiousness might be important for understanding the path to “successful” vs criminal psychopathy, a new study, published in Personality Disorders: Theory, Research and Treatment, provides more robust support for that idea.
The work published back in 2010 started with a survey of psychology and law specialists, criminal attorneys and professors of clinical psychology in the US. These people were asked if they’d ever known someone who matched Robert Hare’s definition of a psychopath, but who was successful in life. If so, they were asked to provide personality and psychopathy assessments for them. One key difference between successful and standard psychopaths emerged: successful psychopaths were reported as having higher levels of conscientiousness. Rather than being impulsive and irresponsible, they seemed to be more self-disciplined and driven to achieve.
This conclusion was based solely on reports of people who thought they knew someone who fitted the bill, however. Now Emily Lasko and David S. Chester at Virginia Commonwealth University have studied relatively successful vs unsuccessful psychopathic individuals directly.
The pair used a total of seven years of data on 1,354 American adolescent offenders for their study. As all of these adolescents had initially committed a serious offence (such as sexual assault or a weapons offence), the “successful” vs “unsuccessful” distinction was tied to re-offending. Adolescents who did not re-offend were classed as “successful”, whereas those who’d re-offended at least once were deemed to be “unsuccessful”. Every six months during the study, the adolescents completed surveys of psychopathic traits and also separate measures of their ability to control their impulses and suppress feelings of aggression, as well as self-reporting any offences.
Lasko and Chester found that participants who’d initially scored highly for grandiose-manipulative psychopathic traits (traits associated with arrogance and self-centredness as well as manipulativeness) went on to show steeper increases over time in two forms of conscientiousness: impulse control and the suppression of aggression. Importantly, this effect was notably larger within the “successful” group. It seems, then, that successful psychopaths are those who show real improvements at controlling their impulses, to achieve their goals. “This exacerbated development of conscientiousness-defining traits is likely able to compensate for the heightened antisocial tendencies of these psychopathic individuals, bringing them into a self-regulatory balance that enables them to function in society,” the researchers write.
The team tried altering the number of re-offences that led to an individual being categorised as successful vs unsuccessful, but this did not materially change the pattern of the results. As an alternative measure of “success”, they also considered whether or not participants were enrolled in school at each time point. The link between conscientiousness-related traits and success held. “This suggests that our findings are likely to generalise across various forms of ‘success’,” the researchers write.
Clearly, more work will be needed to investigate the factors contributing to the development of greater or poorer impulse control, and how to enhance it in this population, perhaps to increase the proportion of relatively successful rather than criminal psychopaths.
Overall, though, the research supports the idea of “successful” vs regular psychopaths, as well as finding evidence for a key difference between the two. “These findings show the importance of the five-factor model to understanding the nuances of psychopathy and its various phenotypes,” the researchers write.
Re: Without Conscience - Psychopaths
It’s also good to know how to spot a sociopath as this video states one person in twenty five is a sociopath.
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I think I'm a little bit of a one without the charm.
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If you’re not a liar or an egotist then it’s highly unlikely that you are a sociopath or psychopath I believe.
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I lie to myself a lot, but try never to lie to others.
I really have no reason for lies, it gains me nothing, and it's much more easy accepting things I have done wrong.
When I was a kid, and teen, lies got me deeper in crap than i would have been in so I quit that.
If I lie anytime now about something like in the past I really don't know, so is it really a lie, just stupidity, ignorance, or a miss recollection
I really have no reason for lies, it gains me nothing, and it's much more easy accepting things I have done wrong.
When I was a kid, and teen, lies got me deeper in crap than i would have been in so I quit that.
If I lie anytime now about something like in the past I really don't know, so is it really a lie, just stupidity, ignorance, or a miss recollection
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How to spot a sociopath.
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Here’s thirteen traits of psychopaths. A lot of this is reminders but there are some new details for example 17% of prisoners are psychopaths and 93% of psychopaths are in prison.
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Well I don't fit into being one, but I have some pretty bad thoughts sometimes.
I have known a few that fit all those, and one in specific I clashed with constantly because I could see what he was.
He loosened the lug nuts on my car, I threw a railroad tie through his car window.
He jumped me from behind a few times, I beat his ass a few times when he did.
I have known a few that fit all those, and one in specific I clashed with constantly because I could see what he was.
He loosened the lug nuts on my car, I threw a railroad tie through his car window.
He jumped me from behind a few times, I beat his ass a few times when he did.
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Well I don’t believe that they can be your friend and it’s good to be able to spot them the earlier the better. That freak that you mentioned attacked you from behind I believe is likely an example of the psychopaths believing that rules don’t apply to them.
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He was very manipulative, played a good Eddy Hackle type buttering up people, and would not care a bit if someone else had to do his work.
I saw him doing cruel things to animals also at times, he would stop if someone was around, and act like it didn't happen.
Lived off anyone with good will enough that would keep him up, and he would not help a bit to keep himself up, or food on the table.
I saw him doing cruel things to animals also at times, he would stop if someone was around, and act like it didn't happen.
Lived off anyone with good will enough that would keep him up, and he would not help a bit to keep himself up, or food on the table.
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Those are all psychopathic tendencies from the little that I have learned. Cruelty to animals is always a bad sign. Being manipulative, the ability to lay on the charm. He would no doubt score at least fairly high on the psychopathy checklist.
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"Being manipulative, the ability to lay on the charm."
That's most the girls i have dated, and most the kids I have dwelt with in life.
I have been a very manipulative person myself in life, and very good at it I must say.
i would always make a boss think it was his Idea if I wanted something, or my friends, or girlfriends.
No I wouldn't get credit anytime for the things I did, but I gained, and had fun doing it.
I'm not sure manipulative should be on there, most people are if they want something, and like I mentioned kids, and girls, they are quite good at it.
Even a few dogs I have been around have been manipulative, giving me those sad puppy dog eyes.
That's most the girls i have dated, and most the kids I have dwelt with in life.
I have been a very manipulative person myself in life, and very good at it I must say.
i would always make a boss think it was his Idea if I wanted something, or my friends, or girlfriends.
No I wouldn't get credit anytime for the things I did, but I gained, and had fun doing it.
I'm not sure manipulative should be on there, most people are if they want something, and like I mentioned kids, and girls, they are quite good at it.
Even a few dogs I have been around have been manipulative, giving me those sad puppy dog eyes.
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My dog is manipulative but no psychopath. He daily pretends that he needs to go to outside when I’m sitting on the side of the couch that he believes is his side and then when I get up to let him up he runs back to the couch. Other than that he wouldn’t score on the psychopathy checklist.
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I would say to be manipulative is learned soon after birth, and not so special for us.
Kids cry for attention, dogs they do the same, and for other things.
I have seen big cats on shows cry for mom, or attention from dad even.
We are not so special in that, and it's just some are better at it, like woman batting their eyes at us men.
Doesn't help we are so stupid, and gullible.
Kids cry for attention, dogs they do the same, and for other things.
I have seen big cats on shows cry for mom, or attention from dad even.
We are not so special in that, and it's just some are better at it, like woman batting their eyes at us men.
Doesn't help we are so stupid, and gullible.
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Re: Without Conscience - Psychopaths
There’s a few new details in this short video.