It's very dangerous to ever even say anything bad about the King of Thailand in Thailand. In Japan it used to also be very dangerous to say anything bad about the King of Japan. If he made a decree nobody could question as he was seen as a god while the real power brokers behind the veil made the edicts for the king. He actually wasn't even in control. Does a similar situation also go on in Thailand ? Have the Chinese orchestrated themselves into positions behind that veil ?
Why is the Passing of Thailand’s King a Big Deal?
The passing of Thailand’s head of state, the 88 year old King Bhumibol Adulyadej, marks a historically significant event in Thailand’s history. For most Thais, they have known only one king their entire life – King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
The significance of Thailand’s monarchy to Thai people is difficult for Westerners to understand. Unlike Western monarchies who rule from above, Thailand’s monarchy has historically ruled through service to the people. It is in recognition of this service that drives hundreds of thousands of Thais into the streets of Bangkok to participate in the beginning of funeral rites this week.
The depth and scope of this service includes not only the political boundaries and stability the monarchy provided when politicians and political parties clashed within the nation, but also service in driving long-term infrastructure projects regarding irrigation, energy, and agriculture shortsighted politicians refused to pursue.
Many aspects of Thai agriculture, from the introduction of new crops to the concept of cooperatives and localizing rice mills, were introduced through initiatives promoted and funded by the Royal Family itself. King Bhumibol Adulyadej’s royal palace in Bangkok was many years ago converted into a demonstration and training center where today, foreigners and Thais alike can augment their skills and diversify their economic activity.
Politically, the monarchy’s ability to reside above contests of political power and the deep respect Thais hold for the institution, creates a set of boundaries that have prevented dangerous – even violent political struggles – from expanding into the sort of destructive conflicts seen previously in neighboring Cambodia or currently expanding across the Middle East.
For Thailand’s enemies who seek to undermine political stability or overthrow Thailand’s political order, their primary obstacle and thus target has always been the nation’s revered, powerful monarchy. The passing of Thailand’s Bhumibol Adulyadej presents a perceived vulnerability Thailand’s enemies will undoubtedly seek to exploit to weaken Thailand and thus by doing so, disrupt regional stability.
Thailand’s Importance to Southeast Asia
Thailand is a prominent Southeast Asian nation, home to 70 million people, a dynamic and diverse economy ranging from agriculture to manufacturing, and remains the only nation in the region to have eluded Western colonization.
It has played a pivotal role throughout history, leveraging colonial powers against one another before the World Wars, a battlefield during World War 2, a contributing factor to France’s loss of Indochina and host to US military forces during the Vietnam War.
Since the conflict in Vietnam, Thailand has slowly and incrementally pivoted away from its role in US regional hegemony toward a more balanced place in the region.
Today, as the US performs its own “pivot toward Asia,” Thailand’s geopolitical shift has become even more pronounced as it seeks to evade US pressure, influence, and domination.
Thailand’s arsenal – once dominated by aging American hardware – now hosts Chinese, Russian, European, and even Middle Eastern defense systems. The nation strives to cultivate multiple relationships so as to not be dominated or overly dependent on any single one of them – which has been the key to Thailand’s longstanding sovereignty throughout history.
Currently, Thailand along with the rest of Southeast Asia, serves as a source of trade and cooperation with Beijing. Contrary to popular belief, both China and Southeast Asia conduct the majority of their trade within Asia itself. The stability of the region is therefore essential to each and every nation within the region.
For the US who seeks to encircle and contain China, the destabilization of the region is key to hindering China’s rise and preventing the all but inevitable waning of US “primacy” in Asia Pacific.
Attacking along China’s peripheries, either by coercing, destabilizing, or overthrowing and replacing the governments of China’s neighbors in Southeast Asia is essential to eventually coercing, destabilizing, or overthrowing and replacing the government of China itself.
Target Thailand
Thailand is just one of several nations currently being destabilized by the US. For each nation in the region, the US pursues similar strategies with only minor differences depending on socioeconomic and culturally factors. The presence of US-funded opposition groups and a virtual army of faux-non governmental organizations (NGOs) exist in each and every nation in Southeast Asia.
In Thailand in particular, the primary target is Thailand’s monarchy and its military – two institutions the US sees as obstacles to ever placing an obedient client regime into power. The US believes this precisely because over the past 15 years, through their proxy Thaksin Shinawatra, they have tried and failed to seize power by proxy because of two military coups and massive street protests organized by Thais rallying around their historical institutions.
The average Thai is acutely aware of – if not the current geopolitical and domestic political dynamics of Thailand’s present – the fact that the military and monarchy now and throughout Thailand’s ancient history have been the primary reason the nation remains unconquered.
Attacks, or perceived attacks on either of Thailand’s revered and respected institutions is perceived by the vast majority of Thais as an attack on Thailand itself.
Thus, throughout the media, those networks including CNN and the BBC who regularly and intentionally target the military and monarchy are reviled by Thais. In 2010, when CNN corespondent Dan Rivers mischaracterized street violence carried out by Thaksin Shinawatra’s political party, Thais campaigned against CNN until Rivers was eventually sent home.
Today, the Western media seeks to exploit the sensitive transition period as Thais mourn the passing of King Bhumibol Adulyadej – and have already launched a campaign to undermine the heir, Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.
Making or Breaking Relations with Thailand
Those networks perceived as exploiting or disrupting Thailand’s sensitive transition will immediately be identified by Thais as “enemies” of not only the monarchy, but the nation it has historically served.
For Westerners who live in nations where institutions from as large as government to as small as family are mired in dysfunction, the concept of an entire nation existing as a large “extended family” is alien to them. However alien such a concept may be, the consequences of misunderstanding this concept can cost some nations their influence and standing, not only in Thailand but in Southeast Asia in which Thailand resides a central and influential nation.
Those nations whose media avoids sensationalism and gossip, as well as verified US-engineered propaganda, will come out the other side of Thailand’s transition a stronger ally than ever. It appears out of all nations and regions, it will be China and Thailand’s other Asian neighbors who enjoy this status, while the West and even Russia appear disinterested or incapable of fostering closer ties.A recent article published by Russia’s RT, for example, will undoubtedly be perceived by Thais as a collective attack on them. While the article was likely written, edited, and published by a handful of unprofessional journalists – citing the US State Department and paid lobbyists – it will inadvertently reflect poorly on Russia collectively. Just like CNN and the BBC are reviled and the national influence of the US and UK negatively affected by their actions in Thailand and Asia, careless networks in Russia like RT will become a vector of similar backlash directed at Russia itself if such unprofessionalism is not rectified.
Should the West as well as Russia seek better ties with Thailand, they must take the time to carefully understand the nation and shape policy to meet it, rather than insist on imposing cultural, political, and economic prejudices entire empires throughout history have tried and failed to impose upon the Thai people.
Tony Cartalucci, Bangkok-based geopolitical researcher and writer, especially for the online magazine“New Eastern Outlook”.
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The chinese in Thailand changed their names to Thai ones so that doen't mean that this isn'[t aactually a chinese operation. Thailand's chinese community is controlled by the same chiu chow dialect syndicate that controls the golden triangle. As a friend told me many times over the last 20 years that the chinese hold all positions of power in Thailand so t his general very possibly is chinese.
Video report: Scores convicted of human trafficking
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The chinese in Thailand changed their names to Thai ones so that doen't mean that this isn'[t aactually a chinese operation. Thailand's chinese community is controlled by the same chiu chow dialect syndicate that controls the golden triangle. As a friend told me many times over the last 20 years that the chinese hold all positions of power in Thailand so t his general very possibly is chinese.
Video report: Scores convicted of human trafficking
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20 Jul 2017 at 12:15
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Lt Gen Manas Kongpan arrives at the Criminal Court on Nov 10, 2015. (AP file photo)
A Thai army general was one of the most prominent figures found guilty Wednesday in a major human trafficking trial that included more than 103 defendants accused of involvement in a modern-day slavery trade.
(Reuters video)
All the defendants were charged with human trafficking and pleaded not guilty.
Lt Gen Manas Kongpan received sentences totalling 27 years in prison for multiple human trafficking charges and other offences.
A judge at Bangkok Criminal Court said he was also guilty of complicity in a "transnational organised crime" network and "worked with others to facilitate human trafficking".
Manas was singled out because of his rank and position as a senior officer of the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) in the South. His offences involved trafficking and taking bribes in cases involving migrants from Myanmar and Bangladesh that have been likened to a modern-day slave trade.
The court noted that Manas, the highest-ranking official on trial, held an important role in the security apparatus covering Thailand's south, a trafficking hub in a network that stretched from Myanmar to Malaysia. He had held a position with responsibility for keeping out and expelling migrants who entered Thailand illegally. Because he was a government official, any sentence he receives will be double that of an ordinary citizen who violated the same trafficking laws.
The court was told that he received bank transfers of 14.8 million baht from trafficking agents, and used his position to guide trafficking gangs around checkpoints following their arrival on remote beaches en route to jungle camps.
In 2013 he was promoted to command Isoc in the whole of southern Thailand. Current prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, then army commander, signed the promotion orders.
At least one other defendant considered a kingpin in the illegal trade, Patchuban Angchotphan, was also found guilty, and sentenced to 75 years in prison. He was a prominent businessman and former politician in the southern province of Satun.
By Wednesday evening, around 70 verdicts had been handed down, with sentences to be announced later. The process can take hours before all details are announced, with the possibility of it spilling over into the next day.
Some of those found guilty of trafficking were also convicted for taking part in organised transnational crime, forcible detention leading to death, and of rape.
The defendants include police officers, local politicians and Myanmar nationals. They are accused of smuggling and trafficking migrants on the Thai-Malaysia border.
The defendants were arrested in 2015 after 36 bodies were discovered in shallow graves in southern Thailand in what had served as holding camps until migrants could be smuggled over the border into Malaysia, the intended destination for most. Other such camps with scores more bodies were found, some on the Malaysian side of the frontier.
In this May 5, 2015, file photo, forensic police officer collects items left at an abandoned migrant camp on Khao Kaew Mountain near the Thai-Malaysian border in Padang Besar, Songkhla province, southern Thailand. (AP photo)
According to investigators, smugglers held Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution and poverty in Myanmar for ransom in the jungle camps until relatives could pay for their release. In some cases, they were sold to work as virtual slaves in Thailand. Poor Bangladeshis were also among the migrants.
Others did not make it as far as Thai shores. Most Rohingya were “boat people" who fled from Myanmar or neighbouring Bangladesh on rickety vessels with no supplies, often to find themselves pushed back into the open sea by countries such as Thailand unwilling to welcome them.
The case drew special attention when its lead police investigator, Maj Gen Paween Pongsirin, fled to Australia and said he feared for his life after his findings implicated “influential people'' in Thailand who wanted to silence him.
Prime Minister Prayut had no comment on the trial itself but responded to the main news story of Lt Gen Manas by saying the military should not be blamed for the actions of one officer.
"There are many people in this human-trafficking network," he told reporters. "Don't group all soldiers in the country as one."
There was no reaction at all from the US embassy or government, although they were a major catalyst in bringing about government action against human trafficking with their "Tier 3", worse-in-the-world ranking of the country right after the 2014 coup.
Other foreign reaction was mixed.
"Today's verdict is a major step in efforts to combat human trafficking in Thailand", said Sunai Phasuk, a researcher for the group Human Rights Watch. "Now that we see the conviction of a senior army general, local politicians, influential tycoons, and ... others complicit in trafficking of Rohingya, this should send a strong message that regardless of their status and affiliation, no one is above the law."
Amy A. Smith, executive director of Fortify Rights, a Southeast Asia human rights watchdog, saw it differently.
"This may be the end of an important and unprecedented trial, but it's been a rocky road, and it's not 'case closed' for survivors of human trafficking," she said.
"Thailand has a long way to go to ensure justice for thousands who were exploited, tortured and killed by human traffickers during the last several years."
The people smuggling cases that year put a spotlight on Thailand's long history of negligence toward human-trafficking cases, which led to the US State Department's demotion to the lowest tier in its annual report ranking countries based on their efforts to counter modern-day slavery.
Since then, the regime has repeatedly said it is stepping up efforts to tackle the problem. It labelled the fight against people smuggling a “national priority'' and introduced tougher punishments for traffickers including life imprisonment.
The government's efforts were acknowledged last month by the State Department, which has since promoted Thailand up a level to its current ranking on the “tier 2 watch list,'' for governments that do not fully meet the minimum standards of combating trafficking but are making significant efforts to do so.
Relatives of victims of human trafficking wait for the sentence after an army general, two provincial politicians and police officers were among the scores of people held guilty in a court in Bangkok on Wednesday. (Reuters photo)
Ahead of the trial, the human rights group Fortify Rights called on Thailand to “ensure perpetrators and accomplices involved in trafficking Rohingya refugees and Bangladeshi nationals are held to account.''
“While the trial marks an unprecedented effort by Thai authorities to hold perpetrators of human trafficking accountable, the trial was beset by unchecked threats against witnesses, interpreters, and police investigators,'' the group said in a statement.
Future deterrent
Of the 22 judgements read out during the court's morning session, one person was acquitted.
The government denied that trafficking syndicates are still flourishing and has said it has largely eliminated human trafficking in the country.
Journalists were not allowed in the packed courtroom on Wednesday but proceedings were relayed on television screens provided by the court.
Thailand has recently been a source, destination and transit country for men, women and children who are often smuggled and trafficked from poorer, neighbouring countries Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar to work in Thailand or further afield in Malaysia, usually as labourers and sex workers.
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Video report: Scores convicted of human trafficking
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Lt Gen Manas Kongpan arrives at the Criminal Court on Nov 10, 2015. (AP file photo)
A Thai army general was one of the most prominent figures found guilty Wednesday in a major human trafficking trial that included more than 103 defendants accused of involvement in a modern-day slavery trade.
(Reuters video)
All the defendants were charged with human trafficking and pleaded not guilty.
Lt Gen Manas Kongpan received sentences totalling 27 years in prison for multiple human trafficking charges and other offences.
A judge at Bangkok Criminal Court said he was also guilty of complicity in a "transnational organised crime" network and "worked with others to facilitate human trafficking".
Manas was singled out because of his rank and position as a senior officer of the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) in the South. His offences involved trafficking and taking bribes in cases involving migrants from Myanmar and Bangladesh that have been likened to a modern-day slave trade.
The court noted that Manas, the highest-ranking official on trial, held an important role in the security apparatus covering Thailand's south, a trafficking hub in a network that stretched from Myanmar to Malaysia. He had held a position with responsibility for keeping out and expelling migrants who entered Thailand illegally. Because he was a government official, any sentence he receives will be double that of an ordinary citizen who violated the same trafficking laws.
The court was told that he received bank transfers of 14.8 million baht from trafficking agents, and used his position to guide trafficking gangs around checkpoints following their arrival on remote beaches en route to jungle camps.
In 2013 he was promoted to command Isoc in the whole of southern Thailand. Current prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, then army commander, signed the promotion orders.
At least one other defendant considered a kingpin in the illegal trade, Patchuban Angchotphan, was also found guilty, and sentenced to 75 years in prison. He was a prominent businessman and former politician in the southern province of Satun.
By Wednesday evening, around 70 verdicts had been handed down, with sentences to be announced later. The process can take hours before all details are announced, with the possibility of it spilling over into the next day.
Some of those found guilty of trafficking were also convicted for taking part in organised transnational crime, forcible detention leading to death, and of rape.
The defendants include police officers, local politicians and Myanmar nationals. They are accused of smuggling and trafficking migrants on the Thai-Malaysia border.
The defendants were arrested in 2015 after 36 bodies were discovered in shallow graves in southern Thailand in what had served as holding camps until migrants could be smuggled over the border into Malaysia, the intended destination for most. Other such camps with scores more bodies were found, some on the Malaysian side of the frontier.
In this May 5, 2015, file photo, forensic police officer collects items left at an abandoned migrant camp on Khao Kaew Mountain near the Thai-Malaysian border in Padang Besar, Songkhla province, southern Thailand. (AP photo)
According to investigators, smugglers held Rohingya Muslims fleeing persecution and poverty in Myanmar for ransom in the jungle camps until relatives could pay for their release. In some cases, they were sold to work as virtual slaves in Thailand. Poor Bangladeshis were also among the migrants.
Others did not make it as far as Thai shores. Most Rohingya were “boat people" who fled from Myanmar or neighbouring Bangladesh on rickety vessels with no supplies, often to find themselves pushed back into the open sea by countries such as Thailand unwilling to welcome them.
The case drew special attention when its lead police investigator, Maj Gen Paween Pongsirin, fled to Australia and said he feared for his life after his findings implicated “influential people'' in Thailand who wanted to silence him.
Prime Minister Prayut had no comment on the trial itself but responded to the main news story of Lt Gen Manas by saying the military should not be blamed for the actions of one officer.
"There are many people in this human-trafficking network," he told reporters. "Don't group all soldiers in the country as one."
There was no reaction at all from the US embassy or government, although they were a major catalyst in bringing about government action against human trafficking with their "Tier 3", worse-in-the-world ranking of the country right after the 2014 coup.
Other foreign reaction was mixed.
"Today's verdict is a major step in efforts to combat human trafficking in Thailand", said Sunai Phasuk, a researcher for the group Human Rights Watch. "Now that we see the conviction of a senior army general, local politicians, influential tycoons, and ... others complicit in trafficking of Rohingya, this should send a strong message that regardless of their status and affiliation, no one is above the law."
Amy A. Smith, executive director of Fortify Rights, a Southeast Asia human rights watchdog, saw it differently.
"This may be the end of an important and unprecedented trial, but it's been a rocky road, and it's not 'case closed' for survivors of human trafficking," she said.
"Thailand has a long way to go to ensure justice for thousands who were exploited, tortured and killed by human traffickers during the last several years."
The people smuggling cases that year put a spotlight on Thailand's long history of negligence toward human-trafficking cases, which led to the US State Department's demotion to the lowest tier in its annual report ranking countries based on their efforts to counter modern-day slavery.
Since then, the regime has repeatedly said it is stepping up efforts to tackle the problem. It labelled the fight against people smuggling a “national priority'' and introduced tougher punishments for traffickers including life imprisonment.
The government's efforts were acknowledged last month by the State Department, which has since promoted Thailand up a level to its current ranking on the “tier 2 watch list,'' for governments that do not fully meet the minimum standards of combating trafficking but are making significant efforts to do so.
Relatives of victims of human trafficking wait for the sentence after an army general, two provincial politicians and police officers were among the scores of people held guilty in a court in Bangkok on Wednesday. (Reuters photo)
Ahead of the trial, the human rights group Fortify Rights called on Thailand to “ensure perpetrators and accomplices involved in trafficking Rohingya refugees and Bangladeshi nationals are held to account.''
“While the trial marks an unprecedented effort by Thai authorities to hold perpetrators of human trafficking accountable, the trial was beset by unchecked threats against witnesses, interpreters, and police investigators,'' the group said in a statement.
Future deterrent
Of the 22 judgements read out during the court's morning session, one person was acquitted.
The government denied that trafficking syndicates are still flourishing and has said it has largely eliminated human trafficking in the country.
Journalists were not allowed in the packed courtroom on Wednesday but proceedings were relayed on television screens provided by the court.
Thailand has recently been a source, destination and transit country for men, women and children who are often smuggled and trafficked from poorer, neighbouring countries Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar to work in Thailand or further afield in Malaysia, usually as labourers and sex workers.
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Thai girls have a real charm but from what I have heard they are the greediest for money and are cold behind their smiles and are often even cold enough to have their marks murdered.
Seven file complaints against runaway bride
Seven men have filed complaints against a woman, accusing her of fraud after she allegedly tricked them into marrying her and took away dowries.
Bringing the men to the Crime Suppression Division in Bangkok on Tuesday, lawyer Songkran Achariyasap identified the woman as Jariyaporn Buayai, a 32-year-old native of Loei province.
He alleged she had approached her victims via Facebook, started romantic relationships and then asked them to invest in her "fruit trade business". They later had sex and got married before she took off with the dowries.
Among the victims, Prasarn Thiamyaem, 32, from Prachuap Khiri Khan province, said he knew the woman in February 2015 after exchanging "Likes" on Facebook. Then they discussed the fruit business and he was asked to be her co-investor.
Mr Prasarn said he had given the woman 200,000 baht in borrowed money as the investment. They then had sex and she later claimed she was pregnant. Their wedding was held in Prachuap Khiri Khan in November 2015 when he gave her another 200,000 baht as a dowry.
He lived with her four days. Then she told him she had to visit her hometown. Later, she reportedly had a relative tell him that she had a miscarriage and did not want him to contact her anymore.
Pairat Phuengsuk, 28, from Phetchabun province, said he also knew the woman through Facebook in April this year and had sex with her two months later. Then she asked him to invest in her fruit business and to marry her at her house in Rangsit area of Pathum Thani province in May.
He gave her a 180,000-baht dowry. The day after the wedding, she borrowed his pickup truck, claiming to pick up fruits in Chanthaburi province. She told him to wait for the fruit delivery in Phetchabun before disappearing.
Lawyer Songkran said Ms Jariyaporn had allegedly cheated 12 men out of about 2-3 million baht in total. She claimed to be Miss Soipet Paleewal, a woman she probably hired to open the bank account to receive money from her victims, he said.
The lawyer added the victims also demanded prosecution against her parents, whom they said had attended their weddings, as well as Miss Soipet, who had not shown up after the news.
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Seven file complaints against runaway bride
Seven men have filed complaints against a woman, accusing her of fraud after she allegedly tricked them into marrying her and took away dowries.
Bringing the men to the Crime Suppression Division in Bangkok on Tuesday, lawyer Songkran Achariyasap identified the woman as Jariyaporn Buayai, a 32-year-old native of Loei province.
He alleged she had approached her victims via Facebook, started romantic relationships and then asked them to invest in her "fruit trade business". They later had sex and got married before she took off with the dowries.
Among the victims, Prasarn Thiamyaem, 32, from Prachuap Khiri Khan province, said he knew the woman in February 2015 after exchanging "Likes" on Facebook. Then they discussed the fruit business and he was asked to be her co-investor.
Mr Prasarn said he had given the woman 200,000 baht in borrowed money as the investment. They then had sex and she later claimed she was pregnant. Their wedding was held in Prachuap Khiri Khan in November 2015 when he gave her another 200,000 baht as a dowry.
He lived with her four days. Then she told him she had to visit her hometown. Later, she reportedly had a relative tell him that she had a miscarriage and did not want him to contact her anymore.
Pairat Phuengsuk, 28, from Phetchabun province, said he also knew the woman through Facebook in April this year and had sex with her two months later. Then she asked him to invest in her fruit business and to marry her at her house in Rangsit area of Pathum Thani province in May.
He gave her a 180,000-baht dowry. The day after the wedding, she borrowed his pickup truck, claiming to pick up fruits in Chanthaburi province. She told him to wait for the fruit delivery in Phetchabun before disappearing.
Lawyer Songkran said Ms Jariyaporn had allegedly cheated 12 men out of about 2-3 million baht in total. She claimed to be Miss Soipet Paleewal, a woman she probably hired to open the bank account to receive money from her victims, he said.
The lawyer added the victims also demanded prosecution against her parents, whom they said had attended their weddings, as well as Miss Soipet, who had not shown up after the news.
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A friend of mine who has lived in Thailand for about thirty years sent me this email. A British tourist was tortured by the police for a week and had broken ribs and teeth knocked out. The Black Lives Matter psychos would have lots of fun in Thailand. One reason as I often have posted is that one of the reasons that everyone wants to live in white countries is because our police are so more professional. hmm this could tie into last email as tourists its proven are being taken for overcharged ride
or for sure when the thais know what possible to get out ov you they act accordingly
could have been extortion
but if they see me for sure they would go after the tourist first as well you cant get blood from a stone
then too if you are not dling things the local ways just pisses off the locals well anywhere really
these westerner tourists so dam arrogrant act like they know everything when they clearly dont
theyd do a whole lot better to have a guide like myself do there negiations for them with locals
i do believe not just getting better price all the langauges that i did speak
but learning infinitely more what was realy going on told at first by a local
but then the runins if you cant speak the local langguage you will have for sure
as wont understand what they want or what is going on
and wont be able to answer back
like hell had i been in phuket right next to this clueless wonder tourist would have happened to me
as well
toiursts dont even realize the tourist treatment they are getting
as have no reference
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/br ... news-today
or for sure when the thais know what possible to get out ov you they act accordingly
could have been extortion
but if they see me for sure they would go after the tourist first as well you cant get blood from a stone
then too if you are not dling things the local ways just pisses off the locals well anywhere really
these westerner tourists so dam arrogrant act like they know everything when they clearly dont
theyd do a whole lot better to have a guide like myself do there negiations for them with locals
i do believe not just getting better price all the langauges that i did speak
but learning infinitely more what was realy going on told at first by a local
but then the runins if you cant speak the local langguage you will have for sure
as wont understand what they want or what is going on
and wont be able to answer back
like hell had i been in phuket right next to this clueless wonder tourist would have happened to me
as well
toiursts dont even realize the tourist treatment they are getting
as have no reference
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/br ... news-today
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What I'm seeing of his teeth maybe they where trying to help him, those are some messed up ones, well the ones he has left.
He makes the stereotypical joke about British teeth seem the norm.
Really though I hope he gets better, mentally that is, and thinks before he goes to places like that again.
A lot of places are like that, south of our border is little difference.
He makes the stereotypical joke about British teeth seem the norm.
Really though I hope he gets better, mentally that is, and thinks before he goes to places like that again.
A lot of places are like that, south of our border is little difference.
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This stereotype of British having bad teeth is bullshiite. I can only guess as to where this comes from. It’s also is politically correct to think that Americans are stupid and terrible tourists but in the international bar I worked at Americans were never a problem and all the waitresses wanted to serve them as they were the best tippers.
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I know it's BS, I worked with Brits in the past, hell they had better teeth than most Americans i know.
But it's just a stereotype as i said so I hope people don't get mad at me for saying so.
As for Americans, we can get rowdy, our soldiers in WW@ made that clear,
The rudeness now comes from people like Oprera thinking they own the world, and can walk over people.
We have those acting like that all over the place here at home.
But it's just a stereotype as i said so I hope people don't get mad at me for saying so.
As for Americans, we can get rowdy, our soldiers in WW@ made that clear,
The rudeness now comes from people like Oprera thinking they own the world, and can walk over people.
We have those acting like that all over the place here at home.
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Here’s an email I received in regards to all thforeigners who fall off of balconies to their deaths in Thailand. He has spent a lot of time in Thailand. I think there's just alot of pent up jealousy and malevolence held toward easy going; western partiers in Thailand.
The Thai are really a very simple easy going people. Many have described them as childlike which adds to the attractiveness of the country and the joy of being with them.
However, their lives are hard and full of blistering contradiction.
They are not the wealthy culture rich Chinese or scientific industrial Japanese or the trendy sophisticated well to do Koreans. They are the poor Thai stuck at the bottom of the bin. They are jealous, sullen and bitterly angry!
The westerners are as a rule without exception in the Thai mind dirty, filthy; disgusting and carry no sense of proper behavior or "regard for culture". Even the beautiful women are dirty drunkards who dont know how to behave. They don't seem to realize their status in the eyes of locals. They go about braless; exposing their naked bodies on the streets and in the public areas. They smoke cigarettes. Both the men and women are drunkards and seem to be lazy lots who's only ambition is to get high and get laid. Granted that this is a certain class well know as "Euro Trash" who come to Thailand and make extended stays to enjoy its "fruits" and habitually get into trouble by breaking its laws and customs.
The Thai like the money THAT COMES FROM tourist but they dont like such lazy louts. They simply cant imagine that such people can have such a life of ease and so much money. It's really unfortunate that they have to endure such encounters. The Thai simply cant believe the wanton behavior of the foreigners. They seem to gave an endless source of money. Life is easy... too easy for them. They dont work hard at all...for anything! They have no worries; problems or real life concerns it seems but this is fostered by the endless vacation environment of Thailand where the sun is always shining; the beaches are always beautiful and things are forever cheap. There's never a winter there.
In this way foreigners appear to be mocking the everyday Thai and their lifestyle. The Thai are always working even when they're making money from the foreigners who are always partying. It seems unfair. Feeling of anger; jealousy and contempt naturally grow up.
When they marry them and return to his country they soon realize that what they thought was a rich man in Thailand has no job or education or status back in his own. Living off government handouts like welfare or the dole isnt what they thought they were getting. They soon realize that they married a drunken lout of a man who only wants to return to Thailand where he can live the image of being a rich successful well to do man. They feel cheated and cant understand why the wheels of Karmic blessings havent turned in their respective favor. The life of ease of drinking, eating whore mongering and late night lunar drug fest is heaven on earth! I honestly think this is why there is a strong mix of excitement and contempt everytime they encounter Falang in Thailand and why there is such violence against them. Again, the advantage and attitude of money and status only
perpetuates confrontation.
The Thai are really a very simple easy going people. Many have described them as childlike which adds to the attractiveness of the country and the joy of being with them.
However, their lives are hard and full of blistering contradiction.
They are not the wealthy culture rich Chinese or scientific industrial Japanese or the trendy sophisticated well to do Koreans. They are the poor Thai stuck at the bottom of the bin. They are jealous, sullen and bitterly angry!
The westerners are as a rule without exception in the Thai mind dirty, filthy; disgusting and carry no sense of proper behavior or "regard for culture". Even the beautiful women are dirty drunkards who dont know how to behave. They don't seem to realize their status in the eyes of locals. They go about braless; exposing their naked bodies on the streets and in the public areas. They smoke cigarettes. Both the men and women are drunkards and seem to be lazy lots who's only ambition is to get high and get laid. Granted that this is a certain class well know as "Euro Trash" who come to Thailand and make extended stays to enjoy its "fruits" and habitually get into trouble by breaking its laws and customs.
The Thai like the money THAT COMES FROM tourist but they dont like such lazy louts. They simply cant imagine that such people can have such a life of ease and so much money. It's really unfortunate that they have to endure such encounters. The Thai simply cant believe the wanton behavior of the foreigners. They seem to gave an endless source of money. Life is easy... too easy for them. They dont work hard at all...for anything! They have no worries; problems or real life concerns it seems but this is fostered by the endless vacation environment of Thailand where the sun is always shining; the beaches are always beautiful and things are forever cheap. There's never a winter there.
In this way foreigners appear to be mocking the everyday Thai and their lifestyle. The Thai are always working even when they're making money from the foreigners who are always partying. It seems unfair. Feeling of anger; jealousy and contempt naturally grow up.
When they marry them and return to his country they soon realize that what they thought was a rich man in Thailand has no job or education or status back in his own. Living off government handouts like welfare or the dole isnt what they thought they were getting. They soon realize that they married a drunken lout of a man who only wants to return to Thailand where he can live the image of being a rich successful well to do man. They feel cheated and cant understand why the wheels of Karmic blessings havent turned in their respective favor. The life of ease of drinking, eating whore mongering and late night lunar drug fest is heaven on earth! I honestly think this is why there is a strong mix of excitement and contempt everytime they encounter Falang in Thailand and why there is such violence against them. Again, the advantage and attitude of money and status only
perpetuates confrontation.
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I understand how they feel, but they have it better in one way, they are free of the misconception of a downfall of a weak nation, and people.
They are at the bottom maybe, but that's life, and they make it, very few westerners would after living the life we do.
It's really sad, and uncalled for when people go someplace, and disrespects the culture.
Maybe some do it by accident, but they should apologize when they find out.
People have a bad habit everywhere of generalizing which doesn't help the good people who go.
They are at the bottom maybe, but that's life, and they make it, very few westerners would after living the life we do.
It's really sad, and uncalled for when people go someplace, and disrespects the culture.
Maybe some do it by accident, but they should apologize when they find out.
People have a bad habit everywhere of generalizing which doesn't help the good people who go.
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Re: Thailand
its mostly correct. not need to nit pick as it doesnt really matterGary Oak wrote: ↑January 13th, 2023, 6:56 am Here’s an email I received in regards to all thforeigners who fall off of balconies to their deaths in Thailand. He has spent a lot of time in Thailand. I think there's just alot of pent up jealousy and malevolence held toward easy going; western partiers in Thailand.
The Thai are really a very simple easy going people. Many have described them as childlike which adds to the attractiveness of the country and the joy of being with them.
However, their lives are hard and full of blistering contradiction.
They are not the wealthy culture rich Chinese or scientific industrial Japanese or the trendy sophisticated well to do Koreans. They are the poor Thai stuck at the bottom of the bin. They are jealous, sullen and bitterly angry!
The westerners are as a rule without exception in the Thai mind dirty, filthy; disgusting and carry no sense of proper behavior or "regard for culture". Even the beautiful women are dirty drunkards who dont know how to behave. They don't seem to realize their status in the eyes of locals. They go about braless; exposing their naked bodies on the streets and in the public areas. They smoke cigarettes. Both the men and women are drunkards and seem to be lazy lots who's only ambition is to get high and get laid. Granted that this is a certain class well know as "Euro Trash" who come to Thailand and make extended stays to enjoy its "fruits" and habitually get into trouble by breaking its laws and customs.
The Thai like the money THAT COMES FROM tourist but they dont like such lazy louts. They simply cant imagine that such people can have such a life of ease and so much money. It's really unfortunate that they have to endure such encounters. The Thai simply cant believe the wanton behavior of the foreigners. They seem to gave an endless source of money. Life is easy... too easy for them. They dont work hard at all...for anything! They have no worries; problems or real life concerns it seems but this is fostered by the endless vacation environment of Thailand where the sun is always shining; the beaches are always beautiful and things are forever cheap. There's never a winter there.
In this way foreigners appear to be mocking the everyday Thai and their lifestyle. The Thai are always working even when they're making money from the foreigners who are always partying. It seems unfair. Feeling of anger; jealousy and contempt naturally grow up.
When they marry them and return to his country they soon realize that what they thought was a rich man in Thailand has no job or education or status back in his own. Living off government handouts like welfare or the dole isnt what they thought they were getting. They soon realize that they married a drunken lout of a man who only wants to return to Thailand where he can live the image of being a rich successful well to do man. They feel cheated and cant understand why the wheels of Karmic blessings havent turned in their respective favor. The life of ease of drinking, eating whore mongering and late night lunar drug fest is heaven on earth! I honestly think this is why there is a strong mix of excitement and contempt everytime they encounter Falang in Thailand and why there is such violence against them. Again, the advantage and attitude of money and status only
perpetuates confrontation.
but in general im almost a clean sweep of asia and speak 7 languages of south east asia some not perfect but
have met so many many people from south east asia and what they all think of thais its all the same story
they hate them and get treated as shit. the thais deep arrogrance
you never ever want to work for a thai
i can beleive it would be the same for working for a chinaman
they whole goal is to rip you off
in the end the will
fun fact is thailand was so great why did every single westerner i knew from 25-30 years ago in thailand
either dead now a-z causes or in some jail for 99 years or crapped out and went home the smarter ones
cause thailand a fools paradise
what you see on a 2 week holiday is only what the thais want you to see
the thais might appear nice to you at first that is cause they know you are stupid and rich
oh boy i just speak some thai instead of locals being happy about it like in cambodia speaking khmer
or with lao people speaking lao or etc etc
they run for the hills away
like all of sudden i am persona non grata
i only exerperiecned that a little bit in only cambodia speaking khmer and it was not every cambodian
lady but there were some that ran away
i can give 1000 apples vs apples examples thai people vs cambodia people or tai yai people or karen people or etc
its nite and different the outcome and always thais were the bad ending
i do think the clueless wonder falangs have smartend up somewhat well they dont goto thailand anymore
pattaya is chok full of packies and chinese at this very moment guess 75% of all touirsts
than have 15% russians that are draft dodgers not want to go to ukraine
then leaves 10% westerner old fart loser falangs cant get laid in there own country
thailand is for losers its just that simple
if you are a winner there is nothing here for you
and if you are loser in your homeland you still will be a loser in thailand
you might think your stupid bald head the thai women love it
and hey maybe im not the big fuking loser i thought it was in the west
not really no one does and one day you will realize you were only
do you have any idea how many falangs have killed themself at the bangkok airport
all were departures jumping from 4 th floor down
so many they had put up a 20 foot glass wall to stop them all
is the story of thailand the last stop in life for many that failed
everywhere else
then when they realize they still a loser kill themself
tip of the day why not goto the god dam gym and go on a diet
and take care of yourself
and goto another country other than thailand
it would say too the phlipines would be number 2 bad for asia
its kind of loserville as well
philipinos are not really to be trusted either
trouble is the other asian countries you will have to learn there language
to even have one of them as your gf
well nowadays many people are single maybe its for the best
maybe a boring life but a safe non dangerous one
no deal is better than a bad deal
i tried so hard to tell the falangs here that before
so very few every listened as the numbers of idiot westerners
staying in thailand vs smart ones 8-2
and in the end i told you so its only a matter of time
as you are always playing a rigged casino game here
to which you are the hated foreinger that thais take pride in cheating
and even feel bad on themselves when they did royally fuk you over
thais have no shame
so opposite to japan as japanese are very much rulled by shame and never
want them too look like human scum
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Re: Thailand
i had these in scams section but can add here too
just par for the course can add 1000 more shockers if had to
dont be so naive as the extreme numbers of mostly americans that just figured everything would be same paridgm and rules as what happened in the usa
half way around the fuking world
you aint in kansas anymore
i dont really get it why so many just figured everything would be the same as back home
westerners are arrogrant too deep down and definetly the older ones cant learn new tricks
and cant adapt to asia so set in there ways
oh boy the stories for the grandchildren of clueless wonders westerners i met in thailand
thailand caveat emptor if there ever was
when you know there is no shame in these people
like even the fact many westerners countries tourists dieing abroad its thailand number 1 by a long shot
per captia even more so
does not at all give the idea for the thais to clean up there scum ways towards you
of note bali has done just that this year feeling shame all the westerneres dieing there from
motoribike accidents they banned them from renting any motorbike
some countries not want there country to labeled the shithole of the world go figure
so i add a few here same ole same ole shockers
and you going any complaining about it or protesting did nothing
so best to take this advise no deal better than a bad deal
amazingly when told the many shit for brains westerners i met that
with only a few months in the country they told me no i was wrong
and set out to prove me wrong
just give it time and they all found out they were wrong
get this one
i was with my belgian friend about 20 years ago in bangkok and this english guy we knew was with us julian see link
out of the blue i wasnt even talking about thailand he figured he would scream at me that i knew nothing
about thailand and i was just wrong wrong wrong
get this as chance would have it just 1 week later yet another clueless wonder westerner was caught with
4.7 kg of H in his luggage headed for taiwan
the fuking fool while i dont believe that stupid to ever take H in there luggage
its take a certain kind of despardo person to ever do that i believe
he being the clueless wonder really did think it was diamonds as he was told so
even thou 4.7 kg of diamonds wouldnt be worht millions of usd
but BILLIONS of usd
here you go stranger can we trust you with $2 billion usd of diamonds to take to taiwan
he got the death penality but reduced to 99 years in jail
i did think of visting him in hte jail and asking him if he still thought i didnt know anything about
thailand but why even waste my life with the losers
i do think the smart people like mr oak i dont even have to give them pointers they figured it all out already
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gl ... t-12908663
just par for the course can add 1000 more shockers if had to
dont be so naive as the extreme numbers of mostly americans that just figured everything would be same paridgm and rules as what happened in the usa
half way around the fuking world
you aint in kansas anymore
i dont really get it why so many just figured everything would be the same as back home
westerners are arrogrant too deep down and definetly the older ones cant learn new tricks
and cant adapt to asia so set in there ways
oh boy the stories for the grandchildren of clueless wonders westerners i met in thailand
thailand caveat emptor if there ever was
when you know there is no shame in these people
like even the fact many westerners countries tourists dieing abroad its thailand number 1 by a long shot
per captia even more so
does not at all give the idea for the thais to clean up there scum ways towards you
of note bali has done just that this year feeling shame all the westerneres dieing there from
motoribike accidents they banned them from renting any motorbike
some countries not want there country to labeled the shithole of the world go figure
so i add a few here same ole same ole shockers
and you going any complaining about it or protesting did nothing
so best to take this advise no deal better than a bad deal
amazingly when told the many shit for brains westerners i met that
with only a few months in the country they told me no i was wrong
and set out to prove me wrong
just give it time and they all found out they were wrong
get this one
i was with my belgian friend about 20 years ago in bangkok and this english guy we knew was with us julian see link
out of the blue i wasnt even talking about thailand he figured he would scream at me that i knew nothing
about thailand and i was just wrong wrong wrong
get this as chance would have it just 1 week later yet another clueless wonder westerner was caught with
4.7 kg of H in his luggage headed for taiwan
the fuking fool while i dont believe that stupid to ever take H in there luggage
its take a certain kind of despardo person to ever do that i believe
he being the clueless wonder really did think it was diamonds as he was told so
even thou 4.7 kg of diamonds wouldnt be worht millions of usd
but BILLIONS of usd
here you go stranger can we trust you with $2 billion usd of diamonds to take to taiwan
he got the death penality but reduced to 99 years in jail
i did think of visting him in hte jail and asking him if he still thought i didnt know anything about
thailand but why even waste my life with the losers
i do think the smart people like mr oak i dont even have to give them pointers they figured it all out already
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gl ... t-12908663
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You told me to never raise my voice and never say anything bad about the king. I listened and made sure that I didn’t do either of those two things. I also kept in mind that it’s very easy to get killed there.
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get this. if you wanted to die in just a few minutes 100% i guarantee a random thai would kill you
just start insulting buddha then the royals then steal some guys thai gf oh and open a business that might be more a long term death thou
or you could just get yourself a thai gf and wait for her to get her brother to murder you for the life insurance you took out
has happened thousands of times any of the above and foreigners
just start insulting buddha then the royals then steal some guys thai gf oh and open a business that might be more a long term death thou
or you could just get yourself a thai gf and wait for her to get her brother to murder you for the life insurance you took out
has happened thousands of times any of the above and foreigners
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see this one like hell thailand aint a corrupted shithole
thats quite the fuking explosion only killed 12 cause of stupidity or corruption
has happened so many times as well and will continue to happen
and to think there are actaullly clueless wonder westerners that argue with me over and over and over again
that to them thailand is safe and yes they heard about thai women womens number cheaters in the world 55% survyed when married
but for me not to worry as there thai gal is different
till she aint and the exactly the same as the rest of them
there are few real relationships i saw falangs and thai ladies. they were not idiot oregon man age 65 year with his 23 year old thai gf
that even called him grandpa to my gf in burmese but
were around the same age ie hes in his 40ties and so if she in her 40ties and she is from bangkok and had some previous
relationship with a drunkard thai man that beat her every day
and now is successful enof with a good job and not need his money
well they still can be just as insane for money even when rich
BUT these them what i described above are ONLY EVER the times i saw a falang man and thai women and was a real relationship
and lasted a few years at least
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand ... l/40029962
thats quite the fuking explosion only killed 12 cause of stupidity or corruption
has happened so many times as well and will continue to happen
and to think there are actaullly clueless wonder westerners that argue with me over and over and over again
that to them thailand is safe and yes they heard about thai women womens number cheaters in the world 55% survyed when married
but for me not to worry as there thai gal is different
till she aint and the exactly the same as the rest of them
there are few real relationships i saw falangs and thai ladies. they were not idiot oregon man age 65 year with his 23 year old thai gf
that even called him grandpa to my gf in burmese but
were around the same age ie hes in his 40ties and so if she in her 40ties and she is from bangkok and had some previous
relationship with a drunkard thai man that beat her every day
and now is successful enof with a good job and not need his money
well they still can be just as insane for money even when rich
BUT these them what i described above are ONLY EVER the times i saw a falang man and thai women and was a real relationship
and lasted a few years at least
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand ... l/40029962
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look at this new bullshit. thai authorites all up in arms that someone made a video and put it online was a fake video and looked that pattaya was a
dangerous place. now face 100 000 baht fine and 5 years in thai jail for tarniishing the worlds biggest shithole pattaya fine name
and the so called gun used for the video was a cigarette lighter
thais are such delicate little snowflakes can dish it out but can never take it
i hate hypocrites the worlds worst offenders are thais bar none
you think china is bad you havent seen the worlds biggest bullshit country thailand
in china they really do carry out the death penalty when a local does bad
thailand thats never the case
and said thai dikhead that commited a serious crime free to do whatever he did ie murder someone and got away with again and again and again
in china that is not the case and would be caught and stopped for good
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... ed-as-hoax
and first link
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... in-pattaya
dangerous place. now face 100 000 baht fine and 5 years in thai jail for tarniishing the worlds biggest shithole pattaya fine name
and the so called gun used for the video was a cigarette lighter
thais are such delicate little snowflakes can dish it out but can never take it
i hate hypocrites the worlds worst offenders are thais bar none
you think china is bad you havent seen the worlds biggest bullshit country thailand
in china they really do carry out the death penalty when a local does bad
thailand thats never the case
and said thai dikhead that commited a serious crime free to do whatever he did ie murder someone and got away with again and again and again
in china that is not the case and would be caught and stopped for good
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... ed-as-hoax
and first link
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... in-pattaya
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292 houses destroyed see the aerial foto of mass destruction
and the scum owners of the holding facility ran away to malaysia
thailand will forever be a 3rd or 4th world shithole never forget that
this was NO accident when very many police and officals were paid off to allow someone
to even store so many fireworks there
and NO accident when the shit for brains gov has no zoning laws oh i know lets put a nuclear bomb
right in some residential area
i think i read it was like a 50 tonne bomb detonated like to do this much damage you
would need many b52 bombing to do this i guess
and the scum owners of the holding facility ran away to malaysia
thailand will forever be a 3rd or 4th world shithole never forget that
this was NO accident when very many police and officals were paid off to allow someone
to even store so many fireworks there
and NO accident when the shit for brains gov has no zoning laws oh i know lets put a nuclear bomb
right in some residential area
i think i read it was like a 50 tonne bomb detonated like to do this much damage you
would need many b52 bombing to do this i guess
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thais are such delicate little snowflakes can dish it out but can never take it
Chinese are like this. As I’ve been saying for a long time, they love other people’s misfortune and embarrassment but they can’t bear even a tiny bit of humiliation and embarrassment.
Chinese are like this. As I’ve been saying for a long time, they love other people’s misfortune and embarrassment but they can’t bear even a tiny bit of humiliation and embarrassment.
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Thaksin mass murderer 9000 people extrajudicial killings and stole $10 billion usd has after fleeing thailand 17 years ago returned to
the shithole nation. that was taken over in a military coup. first thing wrong why he was not extradited back to the shithole and
allowed to cruise the world as had many warrants for his arrest? yet mere N****** the smallest of crimes are just like sent back to
thailand?
And now the mass murderer returns to thailand as made a secret deal with the army as wont be going to jail.
And sold out 100% if it was ever not known the thai village idiots that hes now never was on there side but now incohouts
with the ohter dikheads thai army that had a 5% approval rating leading the country the last 9 years
And what a joke like all the mere mortals that are sent to jail there is not screening for if they are well enof to go to jail and medical tests?
Thaksin now in vip police hospital has the whole floor to himself and you will see they will come out with some garbage oh hes too sick to goto jail
Hmm in China a long ago he would have been given the death penalty and done away with. Thats never the case in thaishithole
have to put the whole article here unless you can get around paywalls as i can with special software
https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/08/ ... e-military
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... e-hospital
Thais are outraged by Thaksin’s deal with the military
Thailand’s establishment has clung to power
Thaksin Shinawatra prepares to bow in homage to the king's portrait
Aug 22nd 2023 | SINGAPORE
Ever since Thaksin Shinawatra, one of Thailand’s richest men, became prime minister in 2001 he has loomed over the country’s politics. Leaders of the army and royal establishment, Thailand’s dominant institutions, despise him and resent his popularity among the poor Thais he wooed with populist giveaways. Even after Mr Thaksin was ousted in an army coup in 2006 and later fled the country, parties connected to his family continued to command widespread support.
That pattern shifted dramatically in May, when a party of punchy liberal reformers called Move Forward won more seats than any other party. This was a threat to the military establishment—which therefore used its control of an army-rigged system to stop Move Forward forming a government. The deadlock ended on August 22nd when Srettha Thavisin, a property tycoon and candidate from Mr Thaksin’s Pheu Thai party, was appointed as the country’s next prime minister.
At the head of a sprawling coalition of 11 parties, he received a clinching majority in a combined vote of the House of Representatives and the military-appointed Senate. After weeks of uncertainty, the promise of a functioning government was needed; the Thai baht rose on the news. But the deal between Mr Thaksin and the military establishment, in effect to nobble Move Forward, looks bad for Thai democracy.
A former critic of the establishment, Mr Thaksin has now launched his party into a coalition including the two largest military parties—an arrangement Pheu Thai had previously forsworn. Move Forward, which said it would not support any alliance with pro-military parties, will now be the main opposition party.
The price of Pheu Thai’s accommodation with the establishment was suggested earlier on August 22nd, when Mr Thaksin arrived in Bangkok by private jet. Thereby he ended 15 years in self-imposed exile. Upon disembarking, he bowed before a portrait of the king. He was then arrested on longstanding corruption charges, for which he has been sentenced to eight years in prison. But he is expected to receive a royal pardon before long. How active a role he will then play in politics is unclear. The 74-year-old claims merely to want to be close to his grandchildren. But even if that were plausible, his lead role in the formation of the new government is testament to his continuing political clout.
Many in Thailand are outraged by Mr Thaksin’s opportunism. Ahead of the election, Pheu Thai promised to minimise the army’s role in politics. It had good reason to. Mr Thaksin is not the only member of his family ousted in a military coup; a government led by his sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, was also toppled in 2014. During violent street protests in 2010, the army shot and killed Mr Thaksin’s supporters. Yet instead of reducing the army, Mr Thaksin has now cemented its overreach. Mr Srettha would not have been appointed without support from pro-military parties.
The Thaksin party may come to rue this. In a poll by the National Institute of Development Administration, a research outfit, over 60% of Thais said they disagreed with Pheu Thai going into government with pro-military parties. In expectation of the deal, protesters recently gathered outside Pheu Thai’s headquarters in Bangkok. Some poured fake blood onto effigies of Mr Thaksin and set them alight.
Mr Thaksin and his party must hope to placate Thais by providing them with better government than the army has. That should not be hard. A decade of military rule has been defined by incompetence and corruption. Thailand’s economy has failed to keep pace with its neighbours, including Indonesia and Vietnam. Its post-covid economic recovery has been the slowest in South-East Asia. Mr Thaksin and his party at least have a record of decent economic management. And despite the sprawling nature of its new coalition, it should survive a four-year term, predicts Siripan Nogsuan Sawasdee of Chulalongkorn University. That is because, if the government foundered and fresh elections were held, Move Forward would be likely to win by a bigger margin than it did in May. Despite Mr Thaksin’s dealmaking, Thailand’s most popular party is not done yet.
the shithole nation. that was taken over in a military coup. first thing wrong why he was not extradited back to the shithole and
allowed to cruise the world as had many warrants for his arrest? yet mere N****** the smallest of crimes are just like sent back to
thailand?
And now the mass murderer returns to thailand as made a secret deal with the army as wont be going to jail.
And sold out 100% if it was ever not known the thai village idiots that hes now never was on there side but now incohouts
with the ohter dikheads thai army that had a 5% approval rating leading the country the last 9 years
And what a joke like all the mere mortals that are sent to jail there is not screening for if they are well enof to go to jail and medical tests?
Thaksin now in vip police hospital has the whole floor to himself and you will see they will come out with some garbage oh hes too sick to goto jail
Hmm in China a long ago he would have been given the death penalty and done away with. Thats never the case in thaishithole
have to put the whole article here unless you can get around paywalls as i can with special software
https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/08/ ... e-military
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/po ... e-hospital
Thais are outraged by Thaksin’s deal with the military
Thailand’s establishment has clung to power
Thaksin Shinawatra prepares to bow in homage to the king's portrait
Aug 22nd 2023 | SINGAPORE
Ever since Thaksin Shinawatra, one of Thailand’s richest men, became prime minister in 2001 he has loomed over the country’s politics. Leaders of the army and royal establishment, Thailand’s dominant institutions, despise him and resent his popularity among the poor Thais he wooed with populist giveaways. Even after Mr Thaksin was ousted in an army coup in 2006 and later fled the country, parties connected to his family continued to command widespread support.
That pattern shifted dramatically in May, when a party of punchy liberal reformers called Move Forward won more seats than any other party. This was a threat to the military establishment—which therefore used its control of an army-rigged system to stop Move Forward forming a government. The deadlock ended on August 22nd when Srettha Thavisin, a property tycoon and candidate from Mr Thaksin’s Pheu Thai party, was appointed as the country’s next prime minister.
At the head of a sprawling coalition of 11 parties, he received a clinching majority in a combined vote of the House of Representatives and the military-appointed Senate. After weeks of uncertainty, the promise of a functioning government was needed; the Thai baht rose on the news. But the deal between Mr Thaksin and the military establishment, in effect to nobble Move Forward, looks bad for Thai democracy.
A former critic of the establishment, Mr Thaksin has now launched his party into a coalition including the two largest military parties—an arrangement Pheu Thai had previously forsworn. Move Forward, which said it would not support any alliance with pro-military parties, will now be the main opposition party.
The price of Pheu Thai’s accommodation with the establishment was suggested earlier on August 22nd, when Mr Thaksin arrived in Bangkok by private jet. Thereby he ended 15 years in self-imposed exile. Upon disembarking, he bowed before a portrait of the king. He was then arrested on longstanding corruption charges, for which he has been sentenced to eight years in prison. But he is expected to receive a royal pardon before long. How active a role he will then play in politics is unclear. The 74-year-old claims merely to want to be close to his grandchildren. But even if that were plausible, his lead role in the formation of the new government is testament to his continuing political clout.
Many in Thailand are outraged by Mr Thaksin’s opportunism. Ahead of the election, Pheu Thai promised to minimise the army’s role in politics. It had good reason to. Mr Thaksin is not the only member of his family ousted in a military coup; a government led by his sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, was also toppled in 2014. During violent street protests in 2010, the army shot and killed Mr Thaksin’s supporters. Yet instead of reducing the army, Mr Thaksin has now cemented its overreach. Mr Srettha would not have been appointed without support from pro-military parties.
The Thaksin party may come to rue this. In a poll by the National Institute of Development Administration, a research outfit, over 60% of Thais said they disagreed with Pheu Thai going into government with pro-military parties. In expectation of the deal, protesters recently gathered outside Pheu Thai’s headquarters in Bangkok. Some poured fake blood onto effigies of Mr Thaksin and set them alight.
Mr Thaksin and his party must hope to placate Thais by providing them with better government than the army has. That should not be hard. A decade of military rule has been defined by incompetence and corruption. Thailand’s economy has failed to keep pace with its neighbours, including Indonesia and Vietnam. Its post-covid economic recovery has been the slowest in South-East Asia. Mr Thaksin and his party at least have a record of decent economic management. And despite the sprawling nature of its new coalition, it should survive a four-year term, predicts Siripan Nogsuan Sawasdee of Chulalongkorn University. That is because, if the government foundered and fresh elections were held, Move Forward would be likely to win by a bigger margin than it did in May. Despite Mr Thaksin’s dealmaking, Thailand’s most popular party is not done yet.
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When I read about the Golden Triangle I do remember Chiangmai or Chiangrai. In this very interesting book at least one town is predominantly Chinese. As Khun Sa’s chinese grandfather raised him on his poppy fields were the British just the middle men for the opium trade in China if the poppy fields were actually Chinese owned ? When the nationalist rebels were finally pushed into Burma about a couple years after the communists won the civil war in 1948 the nationalist rebels went into the heroin poppy field area and protected the fields from the Burmese army. The Thai government, the CIA, Laos and Taiwan all helped facilitate the heroin trade and arm the Chinese army protecting the heroin producing area of Burma from the Burmese army.