IQ, lotta dummies out there.

[Blue Frost]

Yeah they do have them, but a most still have a work ethic better than most in countries like in Africa where they think we will pay for it all thanks to media, and the left pushing for that.
Family also from India is better also than most African countries where fathers run off, or leave rape babies all over the place.
We got a lot of war kids here from Africa in the 80s, some made it well here working, but most fell into the liberal mindset they are owed.

[Mel Gibson]

Much of Africa is just a lost cause... I really have nothing against the Christian Church, even though I'm not particularly religious, but what I can't stand is when they constantly beg for money so they can go there to 'help' the situation.

They are helping nothing. The best thing Africans can do is stop popping out massive amounts of children, when the parents can't even feed themselves.

[Blue Frost]

Well like I mentioned a lot of those children now are rape babies, it's a way of life in some places there.
I agree, stop helping them, that's unless they step up, and help themselves.
Most those donation things are scams anyhow.

Best thing to happen is someone smart take over Africa, and whip them into shape, and keep them in line.

[Mel Gibson]

Best thing to happen is someone smart take over Africa, and whip them into shape, and keep them in line.

That's been done before in South Africa, under white rule!

It worked OK until they wanted Whitey's out! They got their wish and it's turning into a shithole again!

[Blue Frost]

It worked you mean till the liberals wanted Whitey out.
The thing with South Africa might have worked a little better if it was a gradual transition, but still you had all those nice wound up tribes, and factions that still hated each other from way before white man that would still kill anything they got.

[Mel Gibson]

Things will only get worse there... It's already pretty much open season on Whitey there. The only saving grace is that South African whitey can actually carry gun for self defense purposes. I would imagine things would be much worse for whitey there if they could not...

[Blue Frost]

The mass murder they have endured under blacks, and you here nothing from those shit filled liberal hacks in Hollywood that caused it.
Not only whites, but so many blacks.

[Mel Gibson]

If I was Whitey there, I'd be planning my escape! May not be so easy though, 'cause since they're white they would obviously not qualify for any sort of 'refugee status'...

[Blue Frost]

10000 took up with Russia a few weeks back, we should let our doors open to them since most are farmers getting away.
Putin knows this, and it's a win win for them.

[Mel Gibson]

I don't know why the West isn't doing more... You have a group of people that are Western in nature and already speak English, so they'd assimilate no problem... But they're White, that's why... We have other preferred races that we'd rather give refugee status to.

[Blue Frost]

It's votes, they want more people that would vote liberal for more free stuff.
The Bores are self sufficient people, and likely conservative thinking.

[Renee]

So, now this again begs the question of Renee's claim of intelligence being related to quality of schooling... I performed dismally in school, essentially failing every grade since the third in Elementary School. I was never held back until High School though, since Elementary school teachers knew it would've made no difference in forcing me to repeat grades, like they did with some of the other kids...

When I dropped out of High School the very day I turned 16, I was still taking some Grade 8 classes, even though I was technically in Grade 10.

A few years later, just to say that I graduated High School, I had taken the GED test, and passed with flying colours... Something in the range of my test results being equivalent to the top 10% of high school grads score results.

Not bad at all, from a kid that didn't (and really just couldn't) pay one second of attention in the 10 completely wasted years I spent sitting at desks I hated, in rooms I hated, with people I didn't like, at places I despised.

The only thing that I really missed out on, is that sometimes I struggle with spelling and grammar, in the sense that sometimes I struggle to put forth an idea or statement as well as I'd like to, because I can't find the god damned words... This is not only written, but verbally also.

Big words and pronunciation is something that I still struggle with when attempting to verbalize a thought, but I suppose that isn't the greatest price to pay in the whole scheme of things... People still know what the fuck I'm saying, and I can still read, write & 'rithmetic better than most of my clown friends that did manage to graduate high school proper!

Mel, there is more to it than just education and I have tried to explain that....You are an example of what I'm saying.....The enviornment a child grows up in plays a huge roll....

Do you not think that if your home life wasn't so dysfunctional and if you had caring, nurturing parents your school life would have been betterand your academic career would have been on par with your peers? If you had people at home encouraging you instead of beating you down, do you not think you would have stuck it out and graduated? Maybe your self esteem and capacity for self respect wouldn't let you quit school if you weren't treated like shit from the people who were supposed to love you.

Mel, I can tell you through my own experience that I am living proof that the enviornment you grow up in makes all the difference. I was lucky, I had good parents that only wanted to see me thrive and excell as a person. They helped and guided me every step of the way, they pushed me to do better with each challenge I faced...I didn't always listen to them but overall I did...to varying degrees... They gave me the tools to grow as a human being. Without them I would not be where I am today.

I started my academic career in a very strict and regressive parochial institution where the teachers (nuns) where about as qualified to teach children as chimpanzees are qualified to teach ball room dancing. They were abusive, sadistic, impatient, and intolerant. They would think nothing of calling a child out for a wrong answer and humiliating them in front the whole class just for kicks. By then corporal punishment had been outlawed, so the nuns switched to mental and emotional abuse...Plus most of them smelled of cigarettes, body odor and old rubber girdles... I have a learning disability (ADHD and a mild form of dyslexia) so you can imagine the treatment I got at their evil grubby little hands...I was branded stupid and unteachable and it was even suggested to my parents that I might be slightly mentally handicapped. My parents weren't having any of that so they took me to a child study group that discovered that I has dyslexic and afflicted with ADHD...(I dont have the hyper activity disorder so no one really noticed my inability to concentrat). My parents then took me to a highly recommended child psychologist that worked with kids with my particular issues. I owe Dr. Framer more than I can every repay because he helped me emensely and really turned my life around. Until recently when he passed away we still kept in contact.

By the time I hit the 5th grade I had had enough of Catholic School. Years of bullying and abuse had turned me into a disciplinary problem. I was always fighting, everyday,...I spent more days in detention and in suspension that you can imagine. I beat more kids up than I care to remember...put one or two in the hospital...and my parents were sued twice for damages....So in the middle of my 5th grade the school called a meeting with my parents and said to them that they would be happy to accept tuition for my older brother and my younger sister, BUT they would not be accepting tuition for me..It was a polite way of saying that I was permanently expelled. I was relieved as hell, my parents where furious..

So I got sent to public school where I got a new start and a new lease on my academic career.

I won't go into all the details of what happened next but let's just say my life changed dramatically and overwhelmingly for the positive. I got the academic help I needed to keep pace with school and state standards and surpassed any and all expectations. I was extremely athletic and a talented softball player and by my Jr. Year in H.S. I scored and almost completely free ride to a pack10 university to play softball for the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. My name was even floated as a candidate for the US national team 2 years running. I gained a Batchelor of Science in World History and a certificate in teaching...The rest is personal history.

Not bad for a kid that started out being marked for failure...

You see Mel, without the support I had from my parents I probably would have ended up just another low life throwaway, a sad statistic, another state dependent bum. I would probably have 10 nappy headed plaid kids, be on welfare, live in a trailer and weigh 500lbs from living on grape soda and cheap boxed mac and cheese... I've seen it happen too many times. But that's not what happened to me, Instead I have 4 kids...3 in college, I have a decent job, a career, and live in a nice home in a safe upper middleclass neighborhood. And I owe all to the enviornment I grew up in which was provided for me by my family and an education system that took the time to care.

BTW...GED tests are geared for the lowest common denominator. They are designed to meet education minimums. They are certianly not a measure of your intellectual capacity or measure of your IQ.

[Odinson]

Sure they are, same as in most places even Africa where you can make a radio out of garbage, and an Ak 47 out of a shovel .
It's mostly opportunity, and what we have to learn by along with the mentality to learn.
Look at India, ignorant country, but getting better, they come here, and excel in learning over the natural born people a great deal of the time.
Same with a lot of Asian people who come here, they learn, and do very well because they have drive most of us don't have anymore thanks to government, media, and the like.

Asians have the capacity to do better..

Living in squalor makes you motivated..


And counting money, figuring ways to make money and make ends meet... That should make you pretty smart.

[Blue Frost]

That give you more reason to learn, but family does even more, you need to have the drive, and that is pushed in a lot of Asia societies.
In socialism family is not a thing they want, they want the government to be in charge of that, and the all powerful entity, motivation to learn more than you need isn't there.

[Mel Gibson]

Mel, there is more to it than just education and I have tried to explain that....You are an example of what I'm saying.....The enviornment a child grows up in plays a huge roll....

Do you not think that if your home life wasn't so dysfunctional and if you had caring, nurturing parents your school life would have been betterand your academic career would have been on par with your peers? If you had people at home encouraging you instead of beating you down, do you not think you would have stuck it out and graduated? Maybe your self esteem and capacity for self respect wouldn't let you quit school if you weren't treated like shit from the people who were supposed to love you.

Mel, I can tell you through my own experience that I am living proof that the enviornment you grow up in makes all the difference. I was lucky, I had good parents that only wanted to see me thrive and excell as a person. They helped and guided me every step of the way, they pushed me to do better with each challenge I faced...I didn't always listen to them but overall I did...to varying degrees... They gave me the tools to grow as a human being. Without them I would not be where I am today.

I started my academic career in a very strict and regressive parochial institution where the teachers (nuns) where about as qualified to teach children as chimpanzees are qualified to teach ball room dancing. They were abusive, sadistic, impatient, and intolerant. They would think nothing of calling a child out for a wrong answer and humiliating them in front the whole class just for kicks. By then corporal punishment had been outlawed, so the nuns switched to mental and emotional abuse...Plus most of them smelled of cigarettes, body odor and old rubber girdles... I have a learning disability (ADHD and a mild form of dyslexia) so you can imagine the treatment I got at their evil grubby little hands...I was branded stupid and unteachable and it was even suggested to my parents that I might be slightly mentally handicapped. My parents weren't having any of that so they took me to a child study group that discovered that I has dyslexic and afflicted with ADHD...(I dont have the hyper activity disorder so no one really noticed my inability to concentrat). My parents then took me to a highly recommended child psychologist that worked with kids with my particular issues. I owe Dr. Framer more than I can every repay because he helped me emensely and really turned my life around. Until recently when he passed away we still kept in contact.

By the time I hit the 5th grade I had had enough of Catholic School. Years of bullying and abuse had turned me into a disciplinary problem. I was always fighting, everyday,...I spent more days in detention and in suspension that you can imagine. I beat more kids up than I care to remember...put one or two in the hospital...and my parents were sued twice for damages....So in the middle of my 5th grade the school called a meeting with my parents and said to them that they would be happy to accept tuition for my older brother and my younger sister, BUT they would not be accepting tuition for me..It was a polite way of saying that I was permanently expelled. I was relieved as hell, my parents where furious..

So I got sent to public school where I got a new start and a new lease on my academic career.

I won't go into all the details of what happened next but let's just say my life changed dramatically and overwhelmingly for the positive. I got the academic help I needed to keep pace with school and state standards and surpassed any and all expectations. I was extremely athletic and a talented softball player and by my Jr. Year in H.S. I scored and almost completely free ride to a pack10 university to play softball for the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. My name was even floated as a candidate for the US national team 2 years running. I gained a Batchelor of Science in World History and a certificate in teaching...The rest is personal history.

Not bad for a kid that started out being marked for failure...

You see Mel, without the support I had from my parents I probably would have ended up just another low life throwaway, a sad statistic, another state dependent bum. I would probably have 10 nappy headed plaid kids, be on welfare, live in a trailer and weigh 500lbs from living on grape soda and cheap boxed mac and cheese... I've seen it happen too many times. But that's not what happened to me, Instead I have 4 kids...3 in college, I have a decent job, a career, and live in a nice home in a safe upper middleclass neighborhood. And I owe all to the enviornment I grew up in which was provided for me by my family and an education system that took the time to care.

BTW...GED tests are geared for the lowest common denominator. They are designed to meet education minimums. They are certianly not a measure of your intellectual capacity or measure of your IQ.

I applaud you for attaining what you have, Renee. Really I do, and I hope your upper middle class neighbourhood is mostly White... because if it ain't!~

All kidding aside, I was doomed to fail in our educational system due to ADHD. Had nothing to do with IQ... If my previously posted Mensa test result states I may qualify for membership, clearly I'm not an idiot...

One thing I want to address here... Our GED results are scored not as a 'fail or pass', unless you fail of course. It grades you in relation to what a current High School grad would grade... Thus, here I am in say, within the top 10% of High School grad scores. This is how the results are issued here... In percentages compared to all recent grads... US may be different to accommodate your dumb Nigs. In this country this is how it's done, or at least was when I had taken test. I still have it, and in this country it is as good as a Dogwood (our Provincial term for a high school grad certification)...

That said, employers here don't really give a fuck what you did in High School, so both are certs here that are rarely, if ever, required for much... But if they are, both are accepted interchangeably, even Federally and Provincially by any and all schools and employers.

In this country, it is absolutely an equivalent.

I hate to ramble on, but I'll do that after a few brews... Even though we're White and essentially the same people, we run under different systems... Different protocols.

I digress...

My problem was ADHD (called Hyperactive then), and it was first noted by my Kindergarten teacher, who recommended a visit to the Doktor, who agreed that I was fucked. I was a classic case of extreme ADHD through and through, even though in that era it was an over-prescribed designation, so to say...

I haven't 'grown out' of it to this day, and I was never medicated. That was a big mistake to not medicate me... I still cannot, to this day, sit at any fucking desk and listen to anyone try to 'teach' me...

It doesn't work. Maybe with drugs I could do it, but there was, and is, no way I could ever move up in the educational system.

And yes... I know how easily people can slip through the system. People like me. In one way I want everyone to fend for themselves and make their own... I am not blind to the fact that a few could have a harder time doing this. Trust me.

[Odinson]

I was sent to the "hospital school" which is a locked ward with a school inside..

Its basically a prison for kids and teenagers who dont behave in the regular school.


The hospital thing comes from the fact that the facility has psychologists and loony bin nurses..

Loony bin nurses are different than regular nurses... They are all really big men..

[Odinson]

That didnt help...

I was still a gremlin who harassed all the classes... Got other students to riot as well..



It all changed when Big Bert became our teacher...

Then I started behaving again.


We all have had our problems..

[Mel Gibson]

I was sent to the "hospital school" which is a locked ward with a school inside..
Its basically a prison for kids and teenagers who dont behave in the regular school.
The hospital thing comes from the fact that the facility has psychologists and loony bin nurses..
Loony bin nurses are different than regular nurses... They are all really big men..

I don't think we have anything quite like that here! Or at least not when I went to school!

I don't really know what they'd do with truly bad kids here, other than just simply kicking them outta the public school system!

[Mel Gibson]

We shall never forget this day...

https://www.mensa.lu/en/mensa/online-iq ... -test.html

[Odinson]

I was sent to the "hospital school" which is a locked ward with a school inside..
Its basically a prison for kids and teenagers who dont behave in the regular school.
The hospital thing comes from the fact that the facility has psychologists and loony bin nurses..
Loony bin nurses are different than regular nurses... They are all really big men..

I don't think we have anything quite like that here! Or at least not when I went to school!

I don't really know what they'd do with truly bad kids here, other than just simply kicking them outta the public school system!

One way or another, you will get educated in here... Its law.

Truly bad kids get sent to military school in America.


I partially blame my old teacher... She was a witch who was known for abusing her own kids and her relative kids..

I heard stories from people who lived in the same town as she did...

The other people thought that she is insane.


I told everybody that she is punishing us for no reason.