To anyone that told me that there are only a couple of bad apples among people who swear to serve and protect us - eat your words!
(if that book ever comes out, prepare for smearing campaign against her):
Deadly Dysfunction: Scathing undisclosed details from inside the Pickton investigation
Brian Hutchinson May 25, 2012
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Victim of Pickton attack in 1997 was furious with Crown dropping charges, inquiry told
By NEAL HALL, VANCOUVER SUN April 11, 2012
VANCOUVER - The victim who survived a vicious attack in 1997 by serial killer Robert Pickton was furious with the Crown decision to drop the charges, the Missing Women inquiry was told today. The victim learned from her mother that prosecutor Randi Connor had decided to stay the charges of attempted murder and aggravated assault against Pickton. The inquiry was told that the victim asked her mother for the prosecutor's phone number and called Connor at home, saying: "How f---ing dare you drop those charges." The victim, whose name has been banned, recalled that Connor said at the time she was having dinner with her family and asked the victim to call her at her office.
But Connor testified Wednesday that she believed that conversation never took place. "I can't imagine it ever taking place," Connor testified. She added she had dealt with upset victims many times when charges didn't proceed or there was an acquittal. "That's a common reaction," Connor told inquiry Commissioner Wally Oppal, a retired Appeal Court judge and former attorney general. But Connor said she had no notes to jog her memory because the Crown file on the 1997 Pickton case was destroyed by mistake. The Crown's file retention policy was that all serious criminal files should be kept for 75 years.
Len Doust, the lawyer representing the Criminal Justice Branch at the inquiry, told Oppal that the matter was investigated and the Pickton file was in one of the 71 boxes of files that were destroyed. Doust said an affidavit was being prepared to explain how the file was destroyed by mistake. Connor testified a day earlier that she decided to stay the charges against Pickton because when she interviewed the victim days before the five-day trial, set for Feb. 2, 1998, she was too high on drugs to be coherent. She said the victim, referred to as Ms. Anderson at the inquiry, was a heroin addict who was nodding off during the interview. Connor said Anderson was the Crown's entire case and with her being unable to articulate the evidence, the case could not proceed.
Connor said she did not tell Anderson that the case would not proceed because Anderson was in no shape to testify. The prosecutor said she communicated with the witness through her mother because Anderson was a drug addict living on the street and didn't have a phone. "You considered her a second-class citizen," suggested Cameron Ward, the lawyer at the inquiry representing the families of 25 murdered and missing women. "That is completely, completely unfair," Connor said. "I've been a prosecutor for 30 years and wouldn't ever ever take that attitude," she added.
Ward pointed out that Anderson was able to testify at Pickton's preliminary hearing on murder charges in 2003. Connor said she was aware of that and believed police managed the witness to make sure she was able to testify. She said the Crown cannot force people to enter rehab to get off drugs before testifying - that's the job of police. Ward pointed out that another Pickton witness, Lynn Ellingsen, also had a drug problem but was able to testify for the Crown.
Ward told the inquiry that he has commissioned Dennis Murray, a former senior Crown and assistant deputy attorney general, to prepare an expert report on the Crown's decision in 1998. Ward said the Crown decision to drop charges against Pickton on Jan. 26, 1998, was significant to the families of Pickton victims. Had Pickton been prosecuted in 1998, the lawyer said, Pickton may not have gone on to murder another 19 women, Ward said.
Anderson was scheduled to testify this week but she had a last-minute change of heart. Commission counsel Art Vertlieb announced Tuesday that Anderson had turned her life around - she is now married with children - and doesn't want to relive the horror of what she went through 15 years ago. At that time, the woman was a drug addict and prostitute picked up by Pickton in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside and took her to his farm in Port Coquitlam the night of March 23, 1997. Once at the farm, Anderson freaked out when Pickton put a handcuff on her wrist. She told police that she fought for her life to try to keep Pickton from handcuffing her other wrist. She began throwing things at him and eventually grabbed a kitchen knife and slashed him in the neck. Pickton got the knife and repeatedly stabbed Anderson.
When Pickton lost his grip - he was trying to stop the blood flow from his neck wound - Anderson fled and ran to the street, where she flagged down a passing car. Anderson's heart stopped twice in hospital while on the operating table, but she was revived and survived. Pickton ended up in the same hospital and the handcuff key was found in his pocket, which was used to remove the handcuff from Anderson's wrist. Anderson gave a police statement in hospital, which was recorded. The recording will be played at the inquiry.
Pickton was charged with attempted murder, assault causing bodily harm, aggravated assault and unlawful confinement. Attempted murder carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. Connor testified the Pickton attack was coded a "red file" because it was so serious and deemed a top priority. The inquiry is probing why Pickton wasn't caught until Feb. 5, 2002. Pickton, now 62, is serving a life sentence after he was convicted of the murders of six women, who were all drug-addicted sex workers who disappeared from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.
Pickton was facing a second trial on another 20 murder counts but the Crown chose not to proceed after Pickton exhausted all his appeals on his first murder convictions. Pickton confided to an undercover officer, posing as a cell mate, that he killed 49 women and planned to kill more.
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By NEAL HALL, VANCOUVER SUN April 11, 2012
VANCOUVER - The victim who survived a vicious attack in 1997 by serial killer Robert Pickton was furious with the Crown decision to drop the charges, the Missing Women inquiry was told today. The victim learned from her mother that prosecutor Randi Connor had decided to stay the charges of attempted murder and aggravated assault against Pickton. The inquiry was told that the victim asked her mother for the prosecutor's phone number and called Connor at home, saying: "How f---ing dare you drop those charges." The victim, whose name has been banned, recalled that Connor said at the time she was having dinner with her family and asked the victim to call her at her office.
But Connor testified Wednesday that she believed that conversation never took place. "I can't imagine it ever taking place," Connor testified. She added she had dealt with upset victims many times when charges didn't proceed or there was an acquittal. "That's a common reaction," Connor told inquiry Commissioner Wally Oppal, a retired Appeal Court judge and former attorney general. But Connor said she had no notes to jog her memory because the Crown file on the 1997 Pickton case was destroyed by mistake. The Crown's file retention policy was that all serious criminal files should be kept for 75 years.
Len Doust, the lawyer representing the Criminal Justice Branch at the inquiry, told Oppal that the matter was investigated and the Pickton file was in one of the 71 boxes of files that were destroyed. Doust said an affidavit was being prepared to explain how the file was destroyed by mistake. Connor testified a day earlier that she decided to stay the charges against Pickton because when she interviewed the victim days before the five-day trial, set for Feb. 2, 1998, she was too high on drugs to be coherent. She said the victim, referred to as Ms. Anderson at the inquiry, was a heroin addict who was nodding off during the interview. Connor said Anderson was the Crown's entire case and with her being unable to articulate the evidence, the case could not proceed.
Connor said she did not tell Anderson that the case would not proceed because Anderson was in no shape to testify. The prosecutor said she communicated with the witness through her mother because Anderson was a drug addict living on the street and didn't have a phone. "You considered her a second-class citizen," suggested Cameron Ward, the lawyer at the inquiry representing the families of 25 murdered and missing women. "That is completely, completely unfair," Connor said. "I've been a prosecutor for 30 years and wouldn't ever ever take that attitude," she added.
Ward pointed out that Anderson was able to testify at Pickton's preliminary hearing on murder charges in 2003. Connor said she was aware of that and believed police managed the witness to make sure she was able to testify. She said the Crown cannot force people to enter rehab to get off drugs before testifying - that's the job of police. Ward pointed out that another Pickton witness, Lynn Ellingsen, also had a drug problem but was able to testify for the Crown.
Ward told the inquiry that he has commissioned Dennis Murray, a former senior Crown and assistant deputy attorney general, to prepare an expert report on the Crown's decision in 1998. Ward said the Crown decision to drop charges against Pickton on Jan. 26, 1998, was significant to the families of Pickton victims. Had Pickton been prosecuted in 1998, the lawyer said, Pickton may not have gone on to murder another 19 women, Ward said.
Anderson was scheduled to testify this week but she had a last-minute change of heart. Commission counsel Art Vertlieb announced Tuesday that Anderson had turned her life around - she is now married with children - and doesn't want to relive the horror of what she went through 15 years ago. At that time, the woman was a drug addict and prostitute picked up by Pickton in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside and took her to his farm in Port Coquitlam the night of March 23, 1997. Once at the farm, Anderson freaked out when Pickton put a handcuff on her wrist. She told police that she fought for her life to try to keep Pickton from handcuffing her other wrist. She began throwing things at him and eventually grabbed a kitchen knife and slashed him in the neck. Pickton got the knife and repeatedly stabbed Anderson.
When Pickton lost his grip - he was trying to stop the blood flow from his neck wound - Anderson fled and ran to the street, where she flagged down a passing car. Anderson's heart stopped twice in hospital while on the operating table, but she was revived and survived. Pickton ended up in the same hospital and the handcuff key was found in his pocket, which was used to remove the handcuff from Anderson's wrist. Anderson gave a police statement in hospital, which was recorded. The recording will be played at the inquiry.
Pickton was charged with attempted murder, assault causing bodily harm, aggravated assault and unlawful confinement. Attempted murder carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. Connor testified the Pickton attack was coded a "red file" because it was so serious and deemed a top priority. The inquiry is probing why Pickton wasn't caught until Feb. 5, 2002. Pickton, now 62, is serving a life sentence after he was convicted of the murders of six women, who were all drug-addicted sex workers who disappeared from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.
Pickton was facing a second trial on another 20 murder counts but the Crown chose not to proceed after Pickton exhausted all his appeals on his first murder convictions. Pickton confided to an undercover officer, posing as a cell mate, that he killed 49 women and planned to kill more.
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It may be just me, but I would expect a little more that a headshot to a bleeding, crawling suspect... from a person trained to deal with these type of situation.
On the other hand... since they already shot him... I guess they would have to stain their uniforms if they were even try to save that life...
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - There are new calls for the Police Complaints Commission to take another look at the shooting of a mentally ill man on Granville Street in 2007.
Newly released video shows officers shooting the man as he crawls towards them on the ground. David Eby with the BC Civil Liberties Association says Paul Boyd had already been shot, was clearly injured and had dropped a bicycle chain before the fatal shot was fired. He says the video clarifies questions raised by the criminal justice branch over conflicting evidence.
"There's too much confusion, too much difference between the witness accounts to really know what happened," he explains. "Well, now we know Paul Boyd was disarmed and crawling across the road for an extended period of time, which is why we're asking them to have another look at the files now that the uncertainty is over."
In March, the Police Complaints Commissioner decided officers did not use excessive force.
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On the other hand... since they already shot him... I guess they would have to stain their uniforms if they were even try to save that life...
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - There are new calls for the Police Complaints Commission to take another look at the shooting of a mentally ill man on Granville Street in 2007.
Newly released video shows officers shooting the man as he crawls towards them on the ground. David Eby with the BC Civil Liberties Association says Paul Boyd had already been shot, was clearly injured and had dropped a bicycle chain before the fatal shot was fired. He says the video clarifies questions raised by the criminal justice branch over conflicting evidence.
"There's too much confusion, too much difference between the witness accounts to really know what happened," he explains. "Well, now we know Paul Boyd was disarmed and crawling across the road for an extended period of time, which is why we're asking them to have another look at the files now that the uncertainty is over."
In March, the Police Complaints Commissioner decided officers did not use excessive force.
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Mountie should have been fired: police psychologist
Mike Webster says internal disciplinary committee had the power to fire Don Ray
Renee Bernard May 26, 2012 18:31:56 PM
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Days after the RCMP admitted that a rogue cop was being transferred to BC from Edmonton, the news is still raising the ire of British Columbians. "He should no longer be working," says police psychologist Mike Webster, who has studied the tribunal's decision to reprimand Don Ray. "The range of sanctions in serious cases such as the present one was fairly broad: from a reprimand all the way to dismissal. They had the opportunity to dismiss him."
He says the failure to fire Ray demonstrates that the force cannot provide a safe work place for its employees. And he believes it flies in the face of statements made by RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, when he took up his new command in November. "He said something about rooting out dark-hearted behaviour. Well, if this isn't dark-hearted behaviour, I don't know what is," notes Webster.
Ray has admitted to a number of sexual transgressions, including exposing himself to an employee and having sex with co-workers, with some of the encounters taking place in a polygraph room. He's been transferred to BC where he will occupy a federal policing position. Ray was also demoted from staff sergeant to sergeant, and was docked 10 days pay. He will be in a federal policing position, the RCMP says, many of which are run out of Vancouver's E-Division headquarters. On Thursday, E-Division Commander, Deputy Commissioner Craig Callens, reassured employees and the public that Ray would be under tight supervision while working in BC.
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Mike Webster says internal disciplinary committee had the power to fire Don Ray
Renee Bernard May 26, 2012 18:31:56 PM
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Days after the RCMP admitted that a rogue cop was being transferred to BC from Edmonton, the news is still raising the ire of British Columbians. "He should no longer be working," says police psychologist Mike Webster, who has studied the tribunal's decision to reprimand Don Ray. "The range of sanctions in serious cases such as the present one was fairly broad: from a reprimand all the way to dismissal. They had the opportunity to dismiss him."
He says the failure to fire Ray demonstrates that the force cannot provide a safe work place for its employees. And he believes it flies in the face of statements made by RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, when he took up his new command in November. "He said something about rooting out dark-hearted behaviour. Well, if this isn't dark-hearted behaviour, I don't know what is," notes Webster.
Ray has admitted to a number of sexual transgressions, including exposing himself to an employee and having sex with co-workers, with some of the encounters taking place in a polygraph room. He's been transferred to BC where he will occupy a federal policing position. Ray was also demoted from staff sergeant to sergeant, and was docked 10 days pay. He will be in a federal policing position, the RCMP says, many of which are run out of Vancouver's E-Division headquarters. On Thursday, E-Division Commander, Deputy Commissioner Craig Callens, reassured employees and the public that Ray would be under tight supervision while working in BC.
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Mountie charged after deadly crash last summer. Cst. Jordan Braid has been charged with dangerous driving causing death and bodily harm after a crash in Agassiz
Renee Bernard May 25, 2012 21:14:42 PM
FRASER VALLEY (NEWS1130) - A Mountie has been charged with dangerous driving causing death and dangerous driving causing bodily harm in connection with a deadly crash in Agassiz on July 12, 2011. Cst. Jordan Braid was driving a marked cruiser and believed to be on route to a domestic dispute when he collided with a Ford Mustang on Highway 7 and Bodnar Road just after 11 p.m. It's alleged he crossed the centre line and didn't use his emergency lights or siren while responding to the call. Evidence suggests his cruiser was going 20 km/hr over the speed limit.
Steve Genberg, 20, was driving the Mustang. He eventually died. His 19-year-old passenger, Jonathan Dauphney, was also seriously hurt. A family member has told News1130 Dauphney is recovering and still suffers from headaches. Neil MacKenzie with Crown counsel comments on why it has taken so long for the Mountie to be charged. "Any fatal collision can involve a fairly detailed investigation by the police and that in turn requires a fairly careful analysis by crown counsel."
Braid is still on desk duty and also faces a code of conduct probe. He will be making his first court appearance on June 26 in Chilliwack. Meanwhile, a trust fund has been set up for Genberg's daughter, Makaila, who was born this past January.
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Renee Bernard May 25, 2012 21:14:42 PM
FRASER VALLEY (NEWS1130) - A Mountie has been charged with dangerous driving causing death and dangerous driving causing bodily harm in connection with a deadly crash in Agassiz on July 12, 2011. Cst. Jordan Braid was driving a marked cruiser and believed to be on route to a domestic dispute when he collided with a Ford Mustang on Highway 7 and Bodnar Road just after 11 p.m. It's alleged he crossed the centre line and didn't use his emergency lights or siren while responding to the call. Evidence suggests his cruiser was going 20 km/hr over the speed limit.
Steve Genberg, 20, was driving the Mustang. He eventually died. His 19-year-old passenger, Jonathan Dauphney, was also seriously hurt. A family member has told News1130 Dauphney is recovering and still suffers from headaches. Neil MacKenzie with Crown counsel comments on why it has taken so long for the Mountie to be charged. "Any fatal collision can involve a fairly detailed investigation by the police and that in turn requires a fairly careful analysis by crown counsel."
Braid is still on desk duty and also faces a code of conduct probe. He will be making his first court appearance on June 26 in Chilliwack. Meanwhile, a trust fund has been set up for Genberg's daughter, Makaila, who was born this past January.
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VPD officer's gun lost on the Downtown Eastside
The Sig Sauer 226 pistol was lost by a plainclothes officer during a chase near Oppenheimer Park yesterday afternoon
News1130 Staff May 24, 2012 16:59:49 PM
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A police officer's gun has gone missing in the Downtown Eastside and the VPD are now looking for your help.
The Sig Sauer P226 pistol was lost by a plainclothes officer during a chase in Oppenheimer Park Wednesday afternoon.
The gun was lost at around 3 p.m. when two officers saw a drug deal on Cordova St, near Gore.
The VPD's Jana McGuinness says the chase wound up at Jackson Ave., on the east end of Oppenheimer Park before the officer noticed what happened.
"He realized it, and notified supervisors. An intensive search was launched. We've been working lots of investigative leads, trying to find this firearm, but now we have to turn to the public," she notes
"We have one report that a man was seen picking up the firearm. We haven't been able to speak to that person. We would like that person to call 911 and let us know if he has the firearm."
If you come across the weapon, assume that it is loaded, avoid touching it, and call 911.
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Vancouver Police have recovered the Sig Sauer P226 firearm that was lost in a foot chase on May 23rd.
Around 1 p.m. this afternoon, veteran VPD beat patrol officers recovered the missing gun and ammunition in the Downtown Eastside. The officers located the pistol after following up on information received earlier today. Details of where the gun was found, and the source of the information, are not released for investigative reasons.
"Thanks to the investigative skill of very experienced beat patrol officers we have the pistol safely back in our possession," said Const. Jana McGuinness.
No one has been charged.
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The Sig Sauer 226 pistol was lost by a plainclothes officer during a chase near Oppenheimer Park yesterday afternoon
News1130 Staff May 24, 2012 16:59:49 PM
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A police officer's gun has gone missing in the Downtown Eastside and the VPD are now looking for your help.
The Sig Sauer P226 pistol was lost by a plainclothes officer during a chase in Oppenheimer Park Wednesday afternoon.
The gun was lost at around 3 p.m. when two officers saw a drug deal on Cordova St, near Gore.
The VPD's Jana McGuinness says the chase wound up at Jackson Ave., on the east end of Oppenheimer Park before the officer noticed what happened.
"He realized it, and notified supervisors. An intensive search was launched. We've been working lots of investigative leads, trying to find this firearm, but now we have to turn to the public," she notes
"We have one report that a man was seen picking up the firearm. We haven't been able to speak to that person. We would like that person to call 911 and let us know if he has the firearm."
If you come across the weapon, assume that it is loaded, avoid touching it, and call 911.
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Vancouver Police have recovered the Sig Sauer P226 firearm that was lost in a foot chase on May 23rd.
Around 1 p.m. this afternoon, veteran VPD beat patrol officers recovered the missing gun and ammunition in the Downtown Eastside. The officers located the pistol after following up on information received earlier today. Details of where the gun was found, and the source of the information, are not released for investigative reasons.
"Thanks to the investigative skill of very experienced beat patrol officers we have the pistol safely back in our possession," said Const. Jana McGuinness.
No one has been charged.
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There were few more, but I'm too tired to look for them now. I guess, I just got pissed -> if there are a few bad apples, the solution is not: to move them around to other bins, because soon enough the only thing you're left with is to throw the whole harvest to landfill...
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It takes usually two types of person to be a police, one is someone that really wants to do right, and protect, the other is a punk that wants to push his weight around.
It makes me sick seeing the system letting them in, and then covering up for them like they do. Dropping charges like above is just what I'm talking about.
If the common person did something similar the police would be there fast to shot them down.
It makes me sick seeing the system letting them in, and then covering up for them like they do. Dropping charges like above is just what I'm talking about.
If the common person did something similar the police would be there fast to shot them down.
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"It takes usually two types of person to be a police, one is someone that really wants to do right, and protect, the other is a punk that wants to push his weight around.
It makes me sick seeing the system letting them in, and then covering up for them like they do".
It seems that this problem is much more deeply rooted here. At some point Canadians have trusted RCMP with the power of "Policing Itself". Basically, they have became untouchable in our times. You may murder/steal/rape (and no - not just prostitutes) and your superiors will do everything they can to cover it up. Dziekanski's case is a perfect example of multiple false statements prior to the court case (including very high ranking RCMPs) and under oath (of the cops that have been directly involved). I guess some pigs "are more equal than others"...
The worst that can happen to you is that you'll be moved to different town or (if you f-up severely), a different province. The worst a new policeman/woman can do is oppose/question orders or procedures. Therefore the only way to get promoted is to blindly follow orders, never allowing yourself for a critical thought of which of the possible outcomes is a constructive one. It is not just Vancouver phenomenon tho. Police forces in all of the industrial nations start to resemble a paramilitary forces (commonly used in every socialist dictatorship against/to control its people).
"If the common person did something similar the police would be there fast to shot them down."
True, but a common person would not wear the same gang colors as cops..., oops, I mean: the uniform with badge... and this is that only difference why a common person would end up classified as a murderer in the very same situation. Sing along: "You can only get away with murder if you own a badge (in both meanings). I am the Law, so I-I-I-I WON!"
It makes me sick seeing the system letting them in, and then covering up for them like they do".
It seems that this problem is much more deeply rooted here. At some point Canadians have trusted RCMP with the power of "Policing Itself". Basically, they have became untouchable in our times. You may murder/steal/rape (and no - not just prostitutes) and your superiors will do everything they can to cover it up. Dziekanski's case is a perfect example of multiple false statements prior to the court case (including very high ranking RCMPs) and under oath (of the cops that have been directly involved). I guess some pigs "are more equal than others"...
The worst that can happen to you is that you'll be moved to different town or (if you f-up severely), a different province. The worst a new policeman/woman can do is oppose/question orders or procedures. Therefore the only way to get promoted is to blindly follow orders, never allowing yourself for a critical thought of which of the possible outcomes is a constructive one. It is not just Vancouver phenomenon tho. Police forces in all of the industrial nations start to resemble a paramilitary forces (commonly used in every socialist dictatorship against/to control its people).
"If the common person did something similar the police would be there fast to shot them down."
True, but a common person would not wear the same gang colors as cops..., oops, I mean: the uniform with badge... and this is that only difference why a common person would end up classified as a murderer in the very same situation. Sing along: "You can only get away with murder if you own a badge (in both meanings). I am the Law, so I-I-I-I WON!"
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As for a police state, and police policing police you might as well start calling them, and each other Comrade, saying Heil, or any other variation.
I actually went into court one time and was in contempt, but the judge didn't push it. I was in for speeding something like 23 over in a 45, and It wasn't me that time.
I got a ticket when a camaro past me one night, and the cop pulled me over for it. I told the judge what happen like it mattered, and then before he could open his mouth I stopped him and said Ill pay this ticket only because you cant get a fair shake in a Kentucky court against a policeman when you take his word over anyone else.
He laughed, and said pay the clerk .
I have nothing but contempt for them the way I have been treated over the years.
I actually went into court one time and was in contempt, but the judge didn't push it. I was in for speeding something like 23 over in a 45, and It wasn't me that time.
I got a ticket when a camaro past me one night, and the cop pulled me over for it. I told the judge what happen like it mattered, and then before he could open his mouth I stopped him and said Ill pay this ticket only because you cant get a fair shake in a Kentucky court against a policeman when you take his word over anyone else.
He laughed, and said pay the clerk .
I have nothing but contempt for them the way I have been treated over the years."Being alone isn't what hurts. It's when the people around you make you feel alone" ~ Naruto Uzumaki, an Anime Character
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Paul Boyd apparently suffered from bi-polar disorder and was swinging a bike chain around. He was shot multiple times, and in this video, he is seen unarmed, crawling on his hands and knees across the street, when the cop fires the final, fatal shot into his head.
I'm so sick of hearing about these stories where police investigate themselves and the cop is exonerated. Later, video appears which makes them all appear to be dirty, disgusting liars. Pathetic.
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Alberta police to investigate new video of Paul Boyd crawling on street before being shot by VPD
Dramatic new video showing an injured man crawling across a Vancouver street before he was shot by a police officer has set off a new investigation, five years after Paul Boyd was killed.
The officer was neither charged nor disciplined after the shooting in August 2007, mainly because there were too many conflicting witness accounts, and a final investigation ruled Const. Lee Chipperfield was
I'm so sick of hearing about these stories where police investigate themselves and the cop is exonerated. Later, video appears which makes them all appear to be dirty, disgusting liars. Pathetic.
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Dramatic new video showing an injured man crawling across a Vancouver street before he was shot by a police officer has set off a new investigation, five years after Paul Boyd was killed.
The officer was neither charged nor disciplined after the shooting in August 2007, mainly because there were too many conflicting witness accounts, and a final investigation ruled Const. Lee Chipperfield was
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"I'm so sick of hearing about these stories where police investigate themselves and the cop is exonerated. Later, video appears which makes them all appear to be dirty, disgusting liars. Pathetic."
Hence, my "rant" today. I guess that Lori Shenher's description of "working conditions" was the last nail for me -> especially, after all the "professionals" RCMP sent us in recent years (can you say: Monty Robinson?). Cheers.
Hence, my "rant" today. I guess that Lori Shenher's description of "working conditions" was the last nail for me -> especially, after all the "professionals" RCMP sent us in recent years (can you say: Monty Robinson?). Cheers.
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So sad, he was executed without a doubt in my mind. Thanks to the tourist that captured the video, it's the proof that I hope will convict someone.
Just so sad
and just think of others murdered like that, it makes me question any police shooting.
Just so sad
and just think of others murdered like that, it makes me question any police shooting."Being alone isn't what hurts. It's when the people around you make you feel alone" ~ Naruto Uzumaki, an Anime Character
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Here is an interview with Boyd's sister. Five years later, it's still an open wound with her, which is understandable.
http://www.globaltvbc.com/he+wasnt+a+da ... story.html
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I totally agree. The police complaints commission should be entirely independent and completely transparent.Ryanissimo wrote: I'm so sick of hearing about these stories where police investigate themselves and the cop is exonerated. Later, video appears which makes them all appear to be dirty, disgusting liars. Pathetic.
That video of the cops shooting Boyd makes me physically ill. He was disarmed and a child could have subdued him. IMO, the cops there no longer had any reason to fear for their own safety or that of the public. It looks like a cold blooded murder.
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Same thoughts Sharlee, and Ill likely be dwelling on it now for a long while after seeing that.
The poor sister also, what a shame she will have to live with seeing that. I only hope it helps in charging those brutes.
The poor sister also, what a shame she will have to live with seeing that. I only hope it helps in charging those brutes.
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I don't concern myself, with other peoples thoughts. They can think what they want, and grind it around in their head. I always get a good nights rest. They however, are exhausted, thinking about me. My trade mark, 
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Surrey says no to RCMP bar at new HQ
Mayor says final decision rests with the province
SURREY (NEWS1130) - Surrey City Council has said no to a bar at the RCMP's new provincial headquarters, which is to be based in the city. However, that may not be the end of the plan. The force had proposed a 500-seat licensed mess hall in its massive new E-Division headquarters in Green Timbers near 140th Street. It would be big enough to fit up to 1200 people. The RCMP notes it already has a bar at its current headquarters on Heather Street in Vancouver and it's a tradition of sorts. It also says it has a safe ride program in case an officer has too much to drink.
However, Surrey council rejected the plan, suggesting the force be granted permits for special events instead. "I think moving forward there's an expectation that having an establishment such as that is really cause for concern by the general public," says Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts. "The general public, in my estimation...does not have an issue with banquets or regimental dinners or veterans' retirements. But they certainly do have an issue with the other piece, in terms of setting up a bar." But Watts adds the RCMP was asking council for feedback, not a final decision.
"The actual decision-making process lies with the provincial liquor board, so our comments were around that we didn't have an issue around the banquets, the regimental dinners, the veterans' retirements, those pieces," Watts says. "But to set up an everyday bar was problematic." Another councillor wonders why the RCMP asked Surrey council at all, noting the force is federally run. Staff at E-Division declined to comment on Surrey council's decision.
The national police force has suffered some serious incidents involving drinking officers, notably Corporal Monty Robinson, who was convicted of obstructing justice after an alcohol-involved crash that killed a young man in Tsawwassen in 2008 (not to even mentioning his "little YVR adventure").
Source: http://www.news1130.com/news/local/arti ... -at-new-hq
Mayor says final decision rests with the province
SURREY (NEWS1130) - Surrey City Council has said no to a bar at the RCMP's new provincial headquarters, which is to be based in the city. However, that may not be the end of the plan. The force had proposed a 500-seat licensed mess hall in its massive new E-Division headquarters in Green Timbers near 140th Street. It would be big enough to fit up to 1200 people. The RCMP notes it already has a bar at its current headquarters on Heather Street in Vancouver and it's a tradition of sorts. It also says it has a safe ride program in case an officer has too much to drink.
However, Surrey council rejected the plan, suggesting the force be granted permits for special events instead. "I think moving forward there's an expectation that having an establishment such as that is really cause for concern by the general public," says Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts. "The general public, in my estimation...does not have an issue with banquets or regimental dinners or veterans' retirements. But they certainly do have an issue with the other piece, in terms of setting up a bar." But Watts adds the RCMP was asking council for feedback, not a final decision.
"The actual decision-making process lies with the provincial liquor board, so our comments were around that we didn't have an issue around the banquets, the regimental dinners, the veterans' retirements, those pieces," Watts says. "But to set up an everyday bar was problematic." Another councillor wonders why the RCMP asked Surrey council at all, noting the force is federally run. Staff at E-Division declined to comment on Surrey council's decision.
The national police force has suffered some serious incidents involving drinking officers, notably Corporal Monty Robinson, who was convicted of obstructing justice after an alcohol-involved crash that killed a young man in Tsawwassen in 2008 (not to even mentioning his "little YVR adventure").
Source: http://www.news1130.com/news/local/arti ... -at-new-hq
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Drunk people carrying loaded firearms...sounds like a good way to spend taxpayers $$. 
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Your kidding me, they actually considered having a bar on the peoples dime 
I guess free beer would have been a part of the deal.
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