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Ahhhh NO ! :panic:


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Putin has lost more men in three weeks than we did in 20 years in Iraq, and Afghanistan.
I was looking at the generals lost, and can see why, they are paper generals, and little experience in learning, or combat.
There support lines are not working well either, logistics seems vacant.

After all is done Putin needs to look at restructuring, and updating the military.
demote these little Generals, and bring up the ones who stand out, and can win a war.
This is if he can after all is done.
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Blue Frost wrote: March 21st, 2022, 8:11 pm Putin has lost more men in three weeks than we did in 20 years in Iraq, and Afghanistan.
I was looking at the generals lost, and can see why, they are paper generals, and little experience in learning, or combat.
There support lines are not working well either, logistics seems vacant.

After all is done Putin needs to look at restructuring, and updating the military.
demote these little Generals, and bring up the ones who stand out, and can win a war.
This is if he can after all is done.
Russia is a paper Tiger, always has been. Our government has used the red army as a bogeyman for more than half a century to justify spending 2 thirds of the government budget on the military.

The real threat is the fucking gooks, the Chinese and the North Koreans... Trump was the only elected leader in the US to call them out for what they are... The biggest threat on this globe to the free world militarily and most of all economically....But "come on man, they're not going to eat our lunch"... Fucking potato headed turd.
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They where not a threat till Nixon sold us out to them by opening trade, and giving them our manufacturing.
Every president since except Trump has sold us out to them, and most his people still did.
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Blue Frost wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 11:29 am They where not a threat till Nixon sold us out to them by opening trade, and giving them our manufacturing.
Every president since except Trump has sold us out to them, and most his people still did.
They weren't really his people. Trump could never seem to get rid of all the Obomb-boy moles and even some of his hand picked people turned out to be shit bags who were only interested in feathering their corrupt nest.

There are a lot of Chinese puppets in the Pentagon as well. Chinese agents in the US government as well as in the Pentagon are the reason China now has a stealth jet fighter and various other super weapons that until recently only the US had. The only good thing is it appears that the Chinese are not sharing the stolen military technology with anyone. They seem to be holding it for themselves because they are getting ready to challenge us and they do not want any competition in their quest for world dominance... They might seem cozy with the Russians right now but if they manage to nullify the US, Russia will be next.

BTW, when Nixon opened up trade with China they were still pretty much just a commie backwater... I don't think Nixon ever envisioned the US government or US corporations selling off all our global raw material rights and manufacturing assets to the Chinese. That shit really started taking off under Clinton and Bush. Two fucking criminals that are still living like kings at the expense of the US taxpayers. Both of them should find a bullet.
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Renee wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
Blue Frost wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 11:29 am They where not a threat till Nixon sold us out to them by opening trade, and giving them our manufacturing.
Every president since except Trump has sold us out to them, and most his people still did.
They weren't really his people. Trump could never seem to get rid of all the Obomb-boy moles and even some of his hand picked people turned out to be shit bags who were only interested in feathering their corrupt nest.

There are a lot of Chinese puppets in the Pentagon as well. Chinese agents in the US government as well as in the Pentagon are the reason China now has a stealth jet fighter and various other super weapons that until recently only the US had. The only good thing is it appears that the Chinese are not sharing the stolen military technology with anyone. They seem to be holding it for themselves because they are getting ready to challenge us and they do not want any competition in their quest for world dominance... They might seem cozy with the Russians right now but if they manage to nullify the US, Russia will be next.

BTW, when Nixon opened up trade with China they were still pretty much just a commie backwater... I don't think Nixon ever envisioned the US government or US corporations selling off all our global raw material rights and manufacturing assets to the Chinese. That shit really started taking off under Clinton and Bush. Two fucking criminals that are still living like kings at the expense of the US taxpayers. Both of them should find a bullet.
Its capitalism and globalism at its finest.

Small dicked corporate weasels cant see past their own greed and sell the fatherland to the enemy.


China has us by the balls since all our stuff is made in China.
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Renee wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
Blue Frost wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 11:29 am They where not a threat till Nixon sold us out to them by opening trade, and giving them our manufacturing.
Every president since except Trump has sold us out to them, and most his people still did.
They weren't really his people. Trump could never seem to get rid of all the Obomb-boy moles and even some of his hand picked people turned out to be shit bags who were only interested in feathering their corrupt nest.

There are a lot of Chinese puppets in the Pentagon as well. Chinese agents in the US government as well as in the Pentagon are the reason China now has a stealth jet fighter and various other super weapons that until recently only the US had. The only good thing is it appears that the Chinese are not sharing the stolen military technology with anyone. They seem to be holding it for themselves because they are getting ready to challenge us and they do not want any competition in their quest for world dominance... They might seem cozy with the Russians right now but if they manage to nullify the US, Russia will be next.

BTW, when Nixon opened up trade with China they were still pretty much just a commie backwater... I don't think Nixon ever envisioned the US government or US corporations selling off all our global raw material rights and manufacturing assets to the Chinese. That shit really started taking off under Clinton and Bush. Two fucking criminals that are still living like kings at the expense of the US taxpayers. Both of them should find a bullet.
He didn't want the lawsuits, and had enough to deal with, but still he should have.
Also with the FBI he should have shut it down, and turned it over to the US Marshals, or someone not so much into the political game.
If you want to clear the swamp you go after the top predators first guarding the place.
Seeing a corrupt department as the FBI blatantly was, and Judicial department heads they all needed chopped.
After that he could go after the Clinton's, Obama, and Biden Bunch, and then the rest.
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Re: Whats your take on the Ukraine ?

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Odinson wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 4:23 pm
Renee wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 12:34 pm
Blue Frost wrote: March 22nd, 2022, 11:29 am They where not a threat till Nixon sold us out to them by opening trade, and giving them our manufacturing.
Every president since except Trump has sold us out to them, and most his people still did.
They weren't really his people. Trump could never seem to get rid of all the Obomb-boy moles and even some of his hand picked people turned out to be shit bags who were only interested in feathering their corrupt nest.

There are a lot of Chinese puppets in the Pentagon as well. Chinese agents in the US government as well as in the Pentagon are the reason China now has a stealth jet fighter and various other super weapons that until recently only the US had. The only good thing is it appears that the Chinese are not sharing the stolen military technology with anyone. They seem to be holding it for themselves because they are getting ready to challenge us and they do not want any competition in their quest for world dominance... They might seem cozy with the Russians right now but if they manage to nullify the US, Russia will be next.

BTW, when Nixon opened up trade with China they were still pretty much just a commie backwater... I don't think Nixon ever envisioned the US government or US corporations selling off all our global raw material rights and manufacturing assets to the Chinese. That shit really started taking off under Clinton and Bush. Two fucking criminals that are still living like kings at the expense of the US taxpayers. Both of them should find a bullet.
Its capitalism and globalism at its finest.

Small dicked corporate weasels cant see past their own greed and sell the fatherland to the enemy.


China has us by the balls since all our stuff is made in China.
The one big failure in Capitalism, Socialist, and Communism is people being bought off, or given promotion.
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Re: Whats your take on the Ukraine ?

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Zelensky was a corrupt, totalitarian leader just last year.

Ukraine was the most corrupt country in Europe.

Zelensky was backed by Ukrainian oligarchs.


Now Ukraine is the cradle of democracy... A real poster boy for freedom. :laugh:



You only get information about supposed Russian casualties when you try to google the condition of Ukrainian armed forces.
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Ukrainians are killing tanks and soldiers...


While Russians seem to hit nothing but babies, little girls and puppies.
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Nope, I don't google, and I know how corrupt the Ukraine government is, or was.
Most those Oligarchs are in the same bed with the Russian ones, and Soros.
Still it's not a reason for Putin, or excuse for the invasion. His want is simple, the property, and use of it.
Your pro Russian stance is sad Odi, might as well just let them have Finland while he's taking others property like he is.

Meanwhile as Biden helps Putin out by buying his oil, Iranian oil, and other enemies of the US, the Saudis are mad at him for not buying more of their oil.
now they want to crash the dollar, and use Yen since China is buying more oil from them.
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Odinson wrote: March 24th, 2022, 7:14 am Ukrainians are killing tanks and soldiers...


While Russians seem to hit nothing but babies, little girls and puppies.
For someone that spent time in the miltary or boy scouts or whatever the fuck you did after HS, you sure don't know dick.

Let me break it down for you so that even a skunk ape can understand the situation....

The Russians are the aggressors; their objective is to blow up all kinds of shit and they have an endless supply of targets... They have to choose wisely. They need to meet their objective without looking like war criminals in the eyes of the world..BUT they can't even manage that..

The Ukrainians on the otherhand are the defenders. They have ONE target and ONE objective. So it serves no purpose for them to kill or destroy anything other than Russian soldiers, tanks and equipment.

This is not media bias this is warfare 101.

Get it now? Or is your sasquatch skull to dense to absorb basic common sense?

If the Red Army was actually hitting the Ukrainian army hard like it should be, the bulk of this conflict would be over by now. But instead the reds are resorting to what amounts to terrorism because that pig faced, pos, Putin wants to create a sitution where NATO has to get involved. You have Russian pundits already clamoring to nuke Warsaw. The Russian scum are already looking to invade Lithuania and Estonia and don't be surprised if parts of Finland are on the list as well. They are playing a dangerous game with a weak hand because Piggy Putin is unhinged.

If you Fins had any balls you would take this opportunity to use your boy scout army and invade Karelia and take back what those filthy Commies stole from you in 1939 and then drive the filthy Russian scum living in Karelia into the Gulf of Finland.
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Hey great news!!!.... We the good old US of A are going to be accepting 100,000 Ukrainian refugees... Isn't that just dandy???... As if we don't have enough foreign and domestic slobs sucking on the government teat.... This is Europe's fucking problem. Let the Eurotrash deal with it. Keep the bums in Europe.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-acc ... 022-03-24/

U.S. to welcome up to 100,000 Ukrainians fleeing war
By Jarrett Renshaw and Ted Hesson

"BRUSSELS/WASHINGTON, March 24 (Reuters) - The United States plans to accept up to 100,000 Ukrainians fleeing Russia's invasion, the Biden administration announced on Thursday, after a month of bombardments touched off Europe's fastest-moving refugee crisis since the end of World War Two."

Oh and BTW Odi, the refugee crisis in Europe must be caused by all the Russian bombs and missiles hitting civilian targets that Google and the media is lying about.... I know I certainly would be fleeing halfway around the world with not even a change of underwear if Google was lying about my house or neighborhood being bombed by Russians.... :rofl:
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Let me guess, it's the black Ukrainians that Poland wouldn't take.
I guess we should be thankful it's not more Syrian, and Afgan ISIS members like Obama let in.

Honestly I don't mind the former USSR/Russian satellite states people coming in, most are hard workers, and good people.
But we don't need the ignorant masses of other countries coming like they have been.
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I rather take Ukrainians than muslims and negroes.

Ukrainians are christian and WHITE. :laugh:


Plus the refugees are women and children now.


Unlike in 2015. :laugh:
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Blue Frost wrote: March 24th, 2022, 11:04 am Let me guess, it's the black Ukrainians that Poland wouldn't take.
I guess we should be thankful it's not more Syrian, and Afgan ISIS members like Obama let in.

Honestly I don't mind the former USSR/Russian satellite states people coming in, most are hard workers, and good people.
But we don't need the ignorant masses of other countries coming like they have been.
"Good people"???... That's a broad term... :laugh:

Well you're going to get Euro trash women a children with their plastic bags full of dirty laundry. At least that's the bulk of the refugees we are seeing... And what purpose will they serve? The non-English speaking rug rats will clog up our schools and the women will be what, unskilled non-english speaking labor?... This is Europe's problem... Send them to fucken Finland to shovel the fucking snow... :angry:

Why is it every time a democrap is in the Whitehouse we end up accepting legions of the world's human refuse? They just open the door and the scum wander in here like it's some kind of state run homeless shelter. Then they immediately start setting up their little enclaves of America hating slums... I'm getting tired of seeing that fucking yellow and blue flag everywhere I look, especially when it's being flaunted by the leftist scum that would sooner wipe their latte guzzling asses with the US flag than give it the respect that it deserves. These refugee kissers can go get fucked and they can take the latest breed of cabbage eaters into their own homes and feed them, cloth them and fuck them for all I care.
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When we where getting them back in the 80s, and 90s they assimilated quite well, when that stopped, and we got Obama, and now Biden's trash they wont work, and are usually scumbag hating people who want us all dead.
At least these people are not like that unless they are the ones that came from the middle east, and Africa which is likely the ones coming by a stipulation knowing this bunch of idiots running things.

The radio just a moment ago said Russia just had a big loss again in eastern Ukraine.
Putin better hurry up, and get his crack troops in there, and supplies. :kez:
Yeah, they said they where sending fresh troops in from top squads, and more Generals since the ones they had are dead now.

I still think Ukraine will fall, but at what cost, and how long now.
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Blue Frost wrote: March 24th, 2022, 2:20 pm When we where getting them back in the 80s, and 90s they assimilated quite well, when that stopped, and we got Obama, and now Biden's trash they wont work, and are usually scumbag hating people who want us all dead.
At least these people are not like that unless they are the ones that came from the middle east, and Africa which is likely the ones coming by a stipulation knowing this bunch of idiots running things.

The radio just a moment ago said Russia just had a big loss again in eastern Ukraine.
Putin better hurry up, and get his crack troops in there, and supplies. :kez:
Yeah, they said they where sending fresh troops in from top squads, and more Generals since the ones they had are dead now.

I still think Ukraine will fall, but at what cost, and how long now.
Really? Crack troops and more generals?.... :laugh:

Where are they getting them from.... Some factory in Minsk where they assemble them from old janitor or truck driver parts?.... :laugh:

This shit is going to drag on for years just like the Balkan war. And best of all, there will be no real resolution. :stars: Russia will end up with a couple satellite border provences and the rest of the Ukraine will end up a failed wreck that the EU will have to financially absorb.... What else is new.... :woot:
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If true this is pretty sad leadership, and logistics.
Maybe Putin is trying to kill the parts of the Russian Army off keeping his own for protection. :think:

40,000 Russian troops injured, captured, killed or missing in Ukraine, NATO claims

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/0 ... to-claims/

Up to 40,000 Russian troops have been wounded, captured, killed, or are missing in Ukraine since the Russian invasion of its neighboring nation began, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) said, according to a senior military official familiar with the matter.

The Wall Street Journal reported that NATO believes no less than 7,000 and up to 15,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the conflict began almost one month ago. The organization calculated the totals based on information from both Ukraine and Russia.

At the beginning of the invasion, Russia had around 190,000 troops. Additional troops from Chechnya, Syria and other locations have joined Russian forces, as well.

In an article published on Sunday, the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda cited a Russian defense ministry assessment of 9,861 Russian troops killed and another 16,153 injured in the fighting. The article has since been updated with the casualty assessments removed, but an archived version of the article shows the earlier Russian casualty assessment

On Wednesday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said “hundreds of thousands” of NATO allied troops were on heightened alert across the entire alliance.

“NATO has acted with speed and unity to protect and defend all Allies,” Stoltenberg said. “There are now hundreds of thousands of Allied troops at heightened readiness across the Alliance. One hundred thousand U.S. troops in Europe and 40,000 forces under direct NATO command, mostly in the eastern part of the alliance, all backed by major air and naval power, including five carrier strike groups in the High North and in the Mediterranean.”

Stoltenberg said NATO will hold a summit later this week and he expects the alliance will strengthen its posture across all domains, including “major increases to our forces in the eastern part of the Alliance on land, in the air, and at sea.”

“The first step is the deployment of four new NATO battlegroups in Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia, along with our existing forces in the Baltic countries and Poland,” Stoltenberg said. “This means that we will have eight multinational NATO battlegroups all along the eastern flank from the Baltic to the Black Sea.”

Earlier this week, the Ukrainian military shared what it said was an intercepted call from a Russian officer leading invading troops in the Ukrainian city of Mykolaiv who said half of his troops had frostbite. He added that they were struggling to evacuate their dead and provide enough tents for those still alive. A U.S. military official also said the U.S. has assessed Russian troops are suffering from frostbite

“We’ve picked up some indications that some of their soldiers are suffering from frostbite because they lack the appropriate cold-weather gear for the environment that they’re in,” the senior defense official said. “They haven’t — in addition to food and fuel, even in terms of personal equipment for some of their troops they’re having trouble, and we’ve picked up indications that some troops have actually suffered and taken out of the fight because of frostbite.”
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Renee wrote: March 24th, 2022, 2:45 pm
Blue Frost wrote: March 24th, 2022, 2:20 pm When we where getting them back in the 80s, and 90s they assimilated quite well, when that stopped, and we got Obama, and now Biden's trash they wont work, and are usually scumbag hating people who want us all dead.
At least these people are not like that unless they are the ones that came from the middle east, and Africa which is likely the ones coming by a stipulation knowing this bunch of idiots running things.

The radio just a moment ago said Russia just had a big loss again in eastern Ukraine.
Putin better hurry up, and get his crack troops in there, and supplies. :kez:
Yeah, they said they where sending fresh troops in from top squads, and more Generals since the ones they had are dead now.

I still think Ukraine will fall, but at what cost, and how long now.
Really? Crack troops and more generals?.... :laugh:

Where are they getting them from.... Some factory in Minsk where they assemble them from old janitor or driver parts?.... :laugh:

This shit is going to drag on for years just like the Balkan war. And best of all, there will be no real resolution. :stars: Russia will end up with a couple satellite border provences and the rest of the Ukraine will end up a failed wreck that the EU will have to financially absorb.... What else is new.... :woot:
Right now the lower regulars is in Ukraine, supposedly Putin thought that would be enough, but they do have a large reserve of better more trained forces.
Putin also has some of the best forces in his private army which is some of the best ones, but my guess he will keep them closer than ever.
I don't think they are what people have been sold on over the decades, but still they have numbers, and better equipment than a lot of the smaller Euro countries.
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