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That's where the burning man comes from, The Celts took a lot of Romans, and burned them as a sacrifice in a burning man .
They usually saved prisoners, and criminals for this.

in something like this
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Blue Frost wrote:That's where the burning man comes from, The Celts took a lot of Romans, and burned them as a sacrifice in a burning man .
They usually saved prisoners, and criminals for this.

in something like this
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I think that pic is from The Wicker Man.... The shitty remake with Nicholas Cage.....a waste of film. The old original campy 1973 movie with Edward Woodward, Britt Ekland and Christopher Lee is much better.

The Celts were a bunch of pyromaniacs. :laugh:

They burned people and animals not just at funerals but on certain holidays as well. Apparently it was a big honor to be set ablaze. I wonder how many of the victims actually felt honored or were they just pissed that they drew the short straw. :laugh:
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Oh yeah, they loved their fires, and the honor was being drunk enough to get in the thing. :laugh: :wacko:
They did a lot of that stuff, prisoners where a favorite to put ablaze though.
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From Myth to history wow.

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I would love to study the library

The Only Library Ever Recovered from Antiquity: The 1800 Scrolls of Herculaneum


The Villa of the Papyri is the name given to a private house that was uncovered in the ancient Roman city of Herculaneum. This city, along with nearby Pompeii, is perhaps best remembered for its destruction during the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD. Because of this natural disaster, the buildings of these cities were preserved under a thick layer of volcanic ash.

One of these buildings was the Villa of the Papyri, named as such due to the discovery of a library in the house that contained about 1800 scrolls of papyri (known today as the ‘Herculaneum Papyri’), which were carbonized due to the eruption of Mount Vesuvius.

Researchers believe the Villa of the Papyri belonged to Lucius Calpurnius Piso Caesoninus, Julius Caesar’s father-in-law. This villa is located in the northwestern part of Herculaneum, on a slope of the volcano overlooking the Bay of Naples. Built in terraces down to the sea, the villa was a grand structure, covering an area of 30,000 square feet (2787 sq. meters). The front of the villa stretched for more than 820 ft. (250 meters), and offered its inhabitants an unobstructed view of the bay. The villa included two peristyles, a swimming pool, gardens, living and reception quarters.

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It was only during the 18th century that the villa was rediscovered. In 1709, the city of Herculaneum was rediscovered when workmen digging a well in the town of Resina stumbled upon the upper level of the ancient town’s theatre. Excavations began to be carried out and were funded by the House of Bourbon. In 1750, the Villa of the Papyri was uncovered, and an excavation was soon undertaken under the direction of Karl Weber, a Swiss architect and engineer.

Two years later, in October 1752, the villa’s library was discovered, and with it, the first cache of papyri was brought to light. Containing about 1800 scrolls, the collection of this library is relatively small. Yet, it is the only known library to have survived from the Classical world.

Hence, the library has a great importance in the eyes of both archaeologists and classicists. Exposure to the volcanic gas and ash meant the scrolls were carbonized – they were turned into charred cylindrical lumps. In fact, the papyri were initially mistaken for lumps of charcoal or burnt logs, and their value was only recognized later. The carbonization of the scrolls effectively preserved them, though at the same time, it made them extremely difficult to unroll.

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Attempts have been made to read the contents of these scrolls. Some were unceremoniously hacked open with a butcher’s knife, whilst others were simply unrolled. Needless to say, damage was done to the fragile artifacts. An ‘unrolling device’ was even invented by Antonio Piaggio, a Piarist monk, specifically for the unravelling of these papyri. Though the scrolls were unrolled with this device, they remained fragile, and the process took a very long time. The first scroll took four years to unravel.

Nevertheless, progress was being made, and by 1790, reports on the contents of the library were being published. Over the next two centuries, various techniques have been developed in the hope that the contents of the papyri may be accessed. Some of the most recent attempts involve digital, rather than physical, unravelling of the scrolls. In order to do so, methods such as X-rays, digital photography, and microscopy have been utilized.

However, it is still very difficult to view the writings on the papyri. The main problem is that the ink and the papyri are physically similar, as the Romans used a carbon-based ink made from smoke residues. In other words, it is not easy to differentiate the writings from the carbonized papyri.

Top image: Fresco depicting a young man reading a scroll from Herculaneum. (Public Domain) Background: A Roman fresco from the Villa of the Papyri (Herculaneum). (Sailko/CC BY 3.0)
The Only Library Ever Recovered from Antiquity: The 1800 Scrolls of Herculaneum

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Biblical king's palace uncovered beneath shrine destroyed by ISIS

By James Rogers Published March 06, 2017 FoxNews.com
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The remains of the Tomb of Prophet Yunus, destroyed by Islamic State militants, in Mosul, Iraq, January 28, 2017. (REUTERS/Azad Lashkari)

The remains of the Tomb of Prophet Yunus, destroyed by Islamic State militants, in Mosul, Iraq, January 28, 2017. (REUTERS/Azad Lashkari)

Archaeologists in Mosul have made a stunning find beneath the Tomb of the Prophet Jonah that was destroyed by Islamic State militants in 2014: the long-hidden palace of ancient Assyrian King Sennacherib.

Experts were documenting the jihadists’ destruction of the tomb’s ruins when they located the palace, which dates back to 600 B.C. ISIS had dug tunnels into the site in a search for ancient artifacts to plunder, according to media reports.

The Telegraph reports that Iraqi archaeologist Layla Salih found a marble cuneiform inscription of Assyrian King Esarhaddon inside one of the tunnels. The inscription is believed to date to 672 B.C. when the palace was part of the ancient Assyrian city of Nineveh.

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One of the earliest forms of writing, cuneiform harnesses wedge-shaped marks and was widely used in ancient Mesopotamian civilizations.

The palace was built for the Assyrian King Sennarcherib, expanded by his son Esarhaddon, and renovated by his grandson King Ashurbanipal, according to the Telegraph, which notes that the palace was partly destroyed during the sack of Nineveh in 612 B.C. Sennacherib’s invasion of the ancient kingdom of Judah is extensively documented in the Bible. Esarhaddon and Ashurbanipal are also mentioned in scripture, although feature less prominently.

Elsewhere in the tunnel, archaeologists found ancient Assyrian stone sculptures of a demi-goddess, the Telegraph reports.

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The Tomb of Jonah, or Nebi Yunus in Arabic, is located on a hill in Eastern Mosul. The site was recaptured from ISIS by the Iraqi army last month during its Mosul offensive.
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The remains of the Tomb of Prophet Yunus, destroyed by Islamic State militants, in Mosul, Iraq, Jan. 28, 2017. (REUTERS/Azad Lashkari)

Jonah is revered in Christian, Muslim, and Jewish traditions. The Prophet’s tomb, which was located within a Sunni mosque, was destroyed by ISIS militants in July 2014.

Dr. Paul Collins, Chair of The British Institute for the Study of Iraq, which is working with the Iraqi State Board of Antiquities and Heritage and UNESCO to protect Iraq’s cultural heritage, told Fox News that there could be more damage at the site. “The tunnels, probably dug for looting, are in imminent danger of collapse,” he explained, via email. “If this happens the result will be even more destruction at a site that had already been devastated by the explosions that destroyed the ancient Shrine of Jonah - in effect we will lose a place where Iraq's ancient, medieval and modern cultural heritage rests one above the other.”

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Archaeologists have been aware since the nineteenth century that ancient Assyrian royal buildings are beneath the shrine, according to Collins, who notes that inscriptions and a relief from a dig in the 1870s are now in the British Museum. “Iraqi excavations in the 1950s revealed an entrance to an Assyrian royal arsenal and in 1990 a large Assyrian building to the east of the mosque guarded by colossal human-headed winged bulls was excavated, but this work came to an end with the Iraq/Kuwait war,” he said.

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WOW nice :) Would love to find something like this also.

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I wonder if the Sahara's climately didn't abruptly change during Noah's flood.

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I read that about a month ago, there was a great river that crossed the Sahara, my guess is it was blocked somehow so it dried up so I doubt humans has a thing to do with this.
The media loves to blame humans for global warming, and stuff a bit much anymore, we even ended the ice age with camp fires some have said :wacko:
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As Graham Hancock has pointed out in some of his manybest selling books. "We are all taught that everything happened gradually but there is a lot of evidence that the ice age began and ended quickly" [ no a word for word quote but the meaning is about the same " Now I don't believe that I am the only one who believes that it is possible that Gondwanaland also separated quickly. Youcan see how the continants fit together quite nicely.
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Some evidence shows the Grand canyon was made fast when the glaciers melted, and the inland sea broke loose flooding the area, things can happen quickly.
The Black sea also was created fast when a land bridge broke letting the Mediterranean enter.
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Oh, also the air currants did change drastically by the ice age ending, things dried up in places, and got wetter in others.
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This video shows the evidence that I had read about. Words just can't do what pictures and videos can sometimes. I imagine that the tower of Babel was elaborately decorated as well.
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very interesting

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Ancient Egypt: Ten huge 2,500-year-old tombs full of well-preserved mummies discovered
The tombs are thought to date back to the Late Period of Egypt.


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In the tombs, the archaeologists found the remains of mummies and sarcophagi.Egypt ministry of Antiquities

Working near the Aga Khan Mausoleum on the west bank of the Nile River, archaeologists have discovered 10 impressive tombs dating back to Egypt's Late Period (712-332 BCE).

Inside them, coffins and well-preserved mummies were identified.

The Aga Khan Mausoleum is located near southern city of Aswan, and was erected for the Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan, the 48th imam of the Ismaili sect (a branch of Shia Islam), who died in 1957.

The archaeological mission, sent by Egypt's Ministry of antiquities, had been excavating in the vicinity of the building to learn about the ancient history of the area.

The 10 tombs have large staircases carved into rock, leading to the entrance of the mortuary chamber where the mummies were laid to rest.

The features of these tombs are strikingly similar to that of many graves found at the West Aswan necropolis located nearby, which was discovered in the 20th century. The archaeologists thus believe that these 10 tombs could be a previously unknown extension of the necropolis.
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Restoration work will be carried out to preserve the coffins.Egypt ministry of Antiquities

In the West Aswan Necropolis, a multitude of tombs from Egypt's distant past - from the Old, Middle and New Kingdoms (from the 3rd millennium to the 11th century BCE) - can be found. A more precise dating of the newly discovered tombs will be carried out, but so far the evidence points to an era known as the Late Period.

The Ministry of Antiquities plans to send the archaeologists again to search the site during the next excavation season. The hope is that they will find out more about the individuals who were buried there. Restoration work will also take place to make sure the coffins and the mummies remain well preserved.

"It's difficult to know how unique the discovery is because information is still being released. The tombs were found near a well-known necropolis, so it is likely that they were part of this existing burial ground", Dr Nicky Nielsen, Lecturer in Egyptology at the University of Manchester told IBTimes UK.

"What is certain is that it's an exciting discovery in what has proven to be an extremely exiting year. Barely a week has gone by in 2017 without the announcement of major discoveries in Egypt, whether it's the cache of mummies found at Tuna el-Gebel last month, the Late Period burials at Thebes, or the colossal statue of Psamtik I found near Cairo in March"
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Blue Frost wrote: January 28th, 2013, 4:36 pm I wish I could find a treasure :) or just some place unknown where there is a treasure of knowledge.
i can answer that one for you

go find the ancient library of alexandria that was burned down or maybe not and had 1 million books / scrolls in it at the time

acatully the ancients in many ways were alot more advanced and capable of the people of today

the law of alexandria was any ship that arrived was to be searched and all books confiscated and taken to the iibrary of alexandria

no one really knows what information was lost in the 1 million books that were there
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I think it was burned several times, Caesar when he was there was just one of the times.
Also about the books on the ships, the people was asked any books onboard be brought to the library to be copied, or given to them.

Caesar was hated for the burning of the library, but a lot of text says the Egyptians themselves burned it.

It's a real shame the knowledge, history, and even art that has been destroyed over time.
The Christian Iconoclast are a group that did a lot of it.

India, and China even, the books, and scrolls burned in political changes, not to mention the scholars killed.
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