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Those towel heads like causing civilian casualties and in Islael they even put their kids in harms way in hopes of making them martyrs playing on the mindless unthinking do gooders synoathy for voctims card,


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Gary Oak wrote: Those towel heads like causing civilian casualties and in Islael they even put their kids in harms way in hopes of making them martyrs playing on the mindless unthinking do gooders synoathy for voctims card,
No shit...

Its suprising how many times the father survives when the kids and wife didnt...
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In many cases the only way to take out a hard core target is to hit him with his friends, and some collateral damage is expected.
They do try thought not to do that usually.
If they can get away with it like now with the left leaning media they will. All is quiet when The little dictator does wrong.
Any event when Bush was in was highly publicized even if not true, protest all over the place with hanging effigies of him.
I'm not supporting what he did because he was wrong on a lot, but come on.

By the way, I'm not naive to think the US is all innocent, I read, and watch foreign media as well, RT for one.
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This is what I have suspected to be true for a long time now. Just as the CIA orchestrated arab spring took down the arab leaders that actually ran their nations and were independant of Soros and company Putin also is the leader of Russia and they don't control him either. Yeltsin made a wise choice in choosing Putin I believe and Russia is the better for it. Americans chose Obama twice and well.....youb know.... I am not so sure that Americans chose Bush junior though. I think they may actually have chose Al Gore but Junior was needed to pull off 9/11.

Why The Elite Hate Russia

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In our previous article The Secret Truth about Russia Exposed, we elaborated on how Russia is a convenient enemy for politicians and specifically the Democratic party, to create an enemy that really, well - doesn't exist to distract and confuse voters. But like with any 'enemy' if you bomb a village, you may have some pissed off villagers. As we explain in our best selling book Splitting Pennies - the world doesn't work the way you see on TV - in fact, it works more closely as seen on Zero Hedge. Although Russia simply is just a country in the wrong place at the wrong time (which, throughout Russian history, seems to be a theme for them) - there really is a reason the Elite hate Russia. It's not because they're Xenophobic, although there's that too - it's because of several key factors that make Russia a unique power in the world, compared to similar countries.

1. Russia is an independent country. It's not possible to manipulate Russia via external remote control, like it is most countries. The Elite don't like that! Russia kicked out Soros "Open Society":

Russia has banned a pro-democracy charity founded by hedge fund billionaire George Soros, saying the organization posed a threat to both state security and the Russian constitution. In a statement released Monday morning, Russia's General Prosecutor's Office said two branches of Soros' charity network — the Open Society Foundations (OSF) and the Open Society Institute (OSI) — would be placed on a "stop list" of foreign non-governmental organizations whose activities have been deemed "undesirable" by the Russian state.

2. Russia is not easy to cripple via clandestine means, whether it be CIA, MI6, or outright military conflict. Some other BRICs however, that's not the case. Say what you will about Russia's military - it's on par and in many cases, advanced, compared to the US military. And that's not AN opinion, that's in the opinion of top US military commanders:

Late in September, we brought you “US Readies Battle Plans For Baltic War With Russia” in which we described a series of thought experiments undertaken by The Pentagon in an effort to determine what the likely outcome would be should something go horribly “wrong” on the way to landing the US in a shooting war with Russia in the Balkans.

The results of those thought experiments were not encouraging. As a reminder, here’s how Foreign Policy summed up the exercises:

3. Russian culture, and language, is too complex for the average "Elite" who pretends to be internationally well versed because they had a few semesters of French. For example, when the diplomat Clinton was Secretary of State, she presented a reset button translating the opposite meaning... ooops.

"I would like to present you with a little gift that represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying and that is: 'We want to reset our relationship, and so we will do it together.' ...

"We worked hard to get the right Russian word. Do you think we got it?" she asked Lavrov, laughing. “You got it wrong," said Lavrov, as both diplomats laughed.

“It should be “perezagruzka” [the Russian word for reset]," said Lavrov."This says ‘peregruzka,’ which means ‘overcharged.’”

Yes, it's almost a certainty that if Clinton by some horrible fate is President there will be Nuclear war. Wars have been started over much more subtle mistakes. One would think, that Clinton would have had an advisor CHECK THIS before presenting it in a public ceremony, in front of reporters? How much more blatantly unprofessional can one be? If politicians worked in the private sector, they wouldn't last a day! How do these people advance so far in politics?

4. Plain and simple, the Elite do not control Russia. While there are backchannels of Russian oligarchs that work directly with Western Rothschild interests, for example, they simply don't have the same level of control as they do European countries, like Germany for instance. Or another good example is China, there's this fanatical talk that China can dump US Treasuries blah blah blah the fact is that China is completely dependent on USA and US Dollars, and will be for the rest of our lives. Maybe in 1000 years in the Dong Dynasty still to come they will rule the world but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

Russia is one of the most highly misunderstood cultures in the West. Which is strange, because Russia is more like America than any European country:

Both Russia and America share huge landmasses with large undeveloped territory
Both Russia and America are predominantly white christian majorities (although in last decades, America tries to be more of a melting pot whereas Russia favors ethnic cleansing)
Both Russia and America fought against Hitler and the Nazis during World War 2, the defining event of the last 60 years
There have been numerous interesting situations where Russia helped America and America helped Russia on a number of levels, to learn more about it checkout the following books:

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. Armand Hammer: The Untold Story

Most interestingly, during the Nixon administration Kissinger was prodding Nixon to partner with Russia that would, in Kissinger's view would create an unstoppable alliance, that no one could compete with such a superpower axis. But, it didn't happen, as there were 'neo-cons' who were against it, mostly Polish Catholics who have some deep genetic fear of any culture using the Cyrillic alphabet. Nixon instead chose China (what a mistake!) and created Forex. But the point being that, through a small slip of fate, "China" may have been in this alternative Kissinger reality the 'Great Evil Enemy' hacking our elections, as we drive across the Alaskan-Siberian highway without any speed limit, oil would be ten cents a gallon, and we wouldn't need to war with the Middle East.
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Soros was all buddy buddy with Russia till what, two years ago. He was big in China also, but not seen much about that lately, I know he still owns a lot of GE so he has dealing there.
Russia if rid of their influence that's a good thing, but would explain why the media is down on them, and our sick leadership.

Oh, Putin asked if this is now a banana republic with how the election is being handled, and the scandals, seems to be.
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Trump won ! :thumbsup: Hopefully he will be able to make good on his promise to make friends with Russia and work with them rather than against them and let them destroy ISIS and other islamic terror groups. Crimea was Russian and they gave it to Ukraine when the Ukraine was a part of Russia. The Crimea had a referendum and they wanted to return to Russia. What's the problem with that ? Britain had the Brexit referendum. That is what the pe3ople want and their desires should be respected.
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There is international channels for that Gary, war wasn't the way to go, and sending in troops disguised as civilians to attack services, and terrorize people isn't right.
Same way with Obama in Libya, Syria, and other Mideast hotbeds.
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Putin might be asking for trouble for actually slaughtering obama's ISIS and other terrorists so easily.

Russian Jets Hit US Supported Terrorists Supply Lines

By Stephen Lendman

According to AMN News, Russian warplanes launched airstrikes, targeting supply lines US-supported terrorists use in Aleppo and Idlib provinces - for replenishing their ranks along with providing their fighters with weapons, munitions and other material support.

“Several Russian air battalions have been reportedly pounding the main jihadist supply road (M-5 Highway) from Idlib to Aleppo, inflicting heavy damage to a number of armored vehicles and militant bases,” AMN News explained.

Weapons and munitions were destroyed. Kurdish-affiliated Hawar News reported terrorists using Turkish M60 tanks and other heavy weapons.

According to Fars News, Syrian warplanes struck terrorists’ supply routes and positions in Aleppo and Idlib provinces, citing a military source.

Russian and Syrian warplanes continue flying over terrorist-held areas at all times, monitoring supply lines, striking targets of opportunity.

Separately, US-supported terrorists shelled the Aleppo University campus, students and displaced Syrians located there, no government forces, at least seven deaths reported, many others injured. Missing students are feared dead, buried under rubble.

Terrorists shell Western Aleppo residential areas daily. The West and supportive media scoundrels ignore their atrocities, wrongfully blaming Russian and Syrian forces for their high crimes.

In Quneitra province, near Israeli-occupied Golan, its warplanes targeted a Syrian military site, causing damage, no casualties reported, Netanyahu’s regime partnered with Obama’s aggression against Syrian sovereign independence.

A Syrian military statement said “(t)his attack c(ame) after the success of our armed forces, in cooperation with popular defense groups, in thwarting a wide attack carried out by Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist(s) on Hadar and its surroundings in Quneitra, killing tens of terrorists and inflicting heavy losses on them in arms and equipment.”

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: How the US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

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Good, F! ISIS, and Obama's other friends.
The US is on in the wrong on this, all because the CIA, and it's handlers want to make money, and Obama is working on his pan socialist agenda .
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Obama had returned the USA Russia relations to almost war and it appears that Trump brought us back on the right side. When I say right side I mean that Russia is fighting terrorists and Obama was supplying those terrorists and was trying to impede Russias efforts. Assad protects his 10% Christian minority from Obamas psycho terrorists who burn them alive in cages and uses their women for sex slaves. Obama has no problem blaming Christians for the crusades but can't blame muslims for islamic terorism. Obama can mock biblical scriptures but can't say anything not praiseworthy about koran scriptures which include using non muslims for slaves and sex slaves and killing all non muslims etc...

Trump warns that by attacking Assad, US will ‘end up fighting Russia’

US President-elect Donald Trump has confirmed that he will most likely abandon the Obama administration policy on Syria to seek a possible rapprochement with Russia on the issue of Assad.
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Global terrorism, Islamic State, Russian anti-terror op in Syria, Syria unrest“I’ve had an opposite view of many people regarding Syria,” the 70-year-old Republican told the Wall Street Journal in his first interview since the election.

From the start of the Syrian war, Barack Obama’s foreign policy has been focused on the support and training of the so-called “moderate” rebel groups who were supposed to defeat Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorists, and survive to eventually overthrow Assad. That approach became deadlocked this year when Washington failed to honor its obligations under an agreement with Moscow to separate their moderate rebel forces from internationally-recognized terrorists.

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Putin on Trump victory: Russia is ready to restore relations with US Trump, on the other hand, said on Friday that the US should be focused on fighting Islamic State, instead of pursuing regime change in Syria.

“My attitude was you’re fighting Syria, Syria is fighting ISIS, and you have to get rid of ISIS. Russia is now totally aligned with Syria, and now you have Iran, which is becoming powerful, because of us, is aligned with Syria... Now we’re backing rebels against Syria, and we have no idea who these people are.”

It has been widely documented and reported that American weapons supplied to the moderate rebels are often obtained by extremists in Syria. Those weapons, in turn, are being used by the jihadists to strike civilian positions and deploy them against Syrian forces.

The president-elect warned that if the US attacks Assad, “we end up fighting Russia, fighting Syria.”

The US coalition bombing of Syrian Army positions near the city of Deir el-Zour on September 17 led to the collapse of the US-Russian peace initiative.

Rapprochement in US-Russia ties could, however, be on the horizon after Trump admitted receiving a “beautiful” letter from Russian President Vladimir Putin. Trump said a phone call between them is scheduled shortly.

Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are “very much alike... in their basic approaches toward international affairs,” Dmitry Peskov told the Associated Press earlier.

“[Trump] has been a very firm supporter of the idea of a good relationship between our countries, because we do carry a joint responsibility for strategic stability in the world, strategic security,” the spokesman said.

Immediately after Trump's victory, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that Moscow looks forward to restoring bilateral relations with the United States.

The US military establishment, however, already seems to be working against Trump's policies. In an interview with CBS This Morning, Defense Secretary Ash Carter leveled a barrage of accusations at Russia.

He said the Russian campaign in Syria “fuels the fires” of ongoing violence in the country, claiming “they’re not doing what we need to do and think needs to be done [in Syria].”

READ MORE: A year of Russian anti-ISIS ops in Syria: 5 key milestones

“What the Russians said, if you’ll remember, was that they were going to come in and fight terrorism and help remove Assad,” Carter said. “They haven’t done either of those things. They haven't done any of that.”

While Moscow has been undertaking efforts to eliminate Islamic State and Al-Nusra Front terrorists in Syria, it never said it would take part in the forcible removal of President Bashar Assad.

When the anchor Norah O’Donnell said “They're helping Assad?” Carter continued, “Exactly. Which in turn simply fuels the fires of the Syrians civil war. So the Russians have been completely backwards there, in what they've been doing.

“So we have not been able to, and I have not been in favor, and am not recommending to the president that we associate ourselves with or work with the Russians until they start doing the right thing,” Carter concluded.

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Putin commented the other day that the US will be in better relations with Trump, and that Hillary would mean war. He was very happy with the election how it went as i guess we all should be.
I'm not a Trump fan, but he has a chance now to grow on people, lets hope he does because American needs a good President for a change.
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I believe that everybody who voted for Turmp hopes that he will be a hero and fix America. I believe that all of Russia is also hoping Trump will be a great president.
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I hope so also, but see him as a Democrat still, and changing a lot of the stuff he said he would do.
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I dont get why some d-heads think that Trump is bad for foreign relations and he is gonna start a war..

President should think about his/her country first... That would go without saying if the tolerant west wouldnt have the policy of pissing away resources on some useless people and countries..

This is the kind of attitude we need.
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Hillary, and Obama did start a war, her Husband also to try to cover up his crimes. Both times it was dealing with Muslims. Trump may very well be a good thing, war might be averted with him, but there is always iran.
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Blue Frost wrote: Hillary, and Obama did start a war, her Husband also to try to cover up his crimes. Both times it was dealing with Muslims. Trump may very well be a good thing, war might be averted with him, but there is always iran.
Merkel is whining about Trumps presidency...
Trump called Merkels refugee policies insane... Thats the only way to describe them... They are not following the EU law..

Merkel can whine all she wants.. She is running out of support in Germany.
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There is a rising tide against liberalism and it's happening all over the western world. The Brexit and Trumps rise to the presidency are only the beginning. It's a backlash against failed liberal economic and immigration polices which have crippled our ability to progress in the proper direction as a society.

Merkel and her socialist counterparts in France, Spain, Italy and Scandinavia are running out of time (thank God). People are standing up all over the west and saying NO MORE of this progressive geopolitical farce that neither works or makes any kind of logical sense.
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It is insane except for her bank account, shes getting money for all this mess shes creating or she wouldn't be doing it.
This socialist agenda is trying to tear apart western society someone with all the cards can rule over people.
I think people are slowly figuring a lot of this out now. this WWO isn't a conspiracy theory anymore.
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Renee wrote: There is a rising tide against liberalism and it's happening all over the western world. The Brexit and Trumps rise to the presidency are only the beginning. It's a backlash against failed liberal economic and immigration polices which have crippled our ability to progress in the proper direction as a society.

Merkel and her socialist counterparts in France, Spain, Italy and Scandinavia are running out of time (thank God). People are standing up all over the west and saying NO MORE of this progressive geopolitical farce that neither works or makes any kind of logical sense.
The whole thing is so messed up that I do not know what english term I should be using for the kinds of Merkel...

All I can say that it would be truly suprising if Merkel gets elected...

She threatened Finland that if we do not take in refugees, we would have no help against Russia... Like we trusted in her help when russians invade.. :laugh:

Maybe they send us a german battalion against 5 armycorps of russians... Woohoo..
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Are Obama and his handlers trying to prevent Trump from preventing world war 3 ? At least Putin is destroying the terrorists that Trump also wants to destroy and this no doubt has Obama in panic mode. As if Russia made a difference in the outcome of that last election. Obama swung it by making it obvious that the USA simply cannot survive much longer under irresponsible leadership.

A "Soft Coup" Attempt: Furious Trump Slams "Secret" CIA Report Russia Helped Him Win

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