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Here is yet another example of people in free nations ceding their freedoms to satisfy the deceitful genocidal and hateful people who they have allowed to live in their nations.

The Subtle Propaganda Battle Over Maps Of Israel

October 22, 2015

By Tom Olago


Recently released maps that purport to demonstrate a progressive theft of Palestinian land by Israel since the late 1940’s, have caused an uproar in news circles.

The highly controversial graphics were aired on cable news network MSNBC, which later labeled them “factually wrong” in an apologetic retraction.

Perhaps the most obvious discrepancy was reflected in the first of the four maps which showed Palestine, a state that has never formally existed.

Based on the maps, MSNBC anchors Kate Snow and Martin Fletcher concluded that the areas where the Palestinians have been living have “grown significantly smaller” since 1946 and further described the progression displayed as ‘shocking”.

The Washington Free Beacon reported that the images promoted by the network have long been criticized by scholars and anti-Semitism watchdog groups as mere anti-Israel propaganda.

Other experts have also reportedly described the maps as factually inaccurate and highly misleading.

One such reported analysis is that of Breitbart’s Pamela Geller, which in part stated: “The fallaciousness of the map MSNBC used is demonstrated by one simple fact: the flag of Palestine before 1948 featured the Star of David. This is further proof … of the falsity of the vicious historical revisionism by the Muslim world to erase the Jewish State and create a mythical Islamic narrative surrounding five thousand years of Jewish history”.

Another attempt to set the historical record straight was also made by Shany Mor, former director for foreign policy of the Israeli National Security Council. Mor stated that “…none of pre-1948 Palestine was under the political authority of Arabs or Jews.

It was ruled by the British Mandatory government, established by the League of Nations for the express purpose of creating a ‘Jewish National Home.’ It was also—contrary to the claims of innumerable pro-Palestinian activists—the first time a discrete political entity called ‘Palestine’ existed in modern history. And this entity was established in order to fulfill a goal that was essentially Zionist in nature.”

Mor observes that another misleading aspect of the maps is that all non-Jewish owned land is labeled Palestinian. This view, Mor states “…was quite simply not the case”. Additionally, the maps should also show small patches of private Arab land alongside the privately owned Jewish lands, which they do not.

However, the MSNBC broadcast was welcomed and presumed accurate by anti-Israeli activists and journalists, who hailed the network for its analysis. This support is evidently derived from the larger context of the Middle East crisis, and endeavors to further highlight supposed encroachments on Arab land through historical Jewish aggressions.

One might think that the recent MSNBC map distortion was an isolated ‘once in a blue moon’ type oversight.

Yet, there seems to be an increasing number of similar cases in which otherwise reputable map publishers tend to overlook the geographical existence of Israel.

In some past events reported over the past few years:

1. Israel was named Palestine in a map given to Paris schools in an incident reported in September 2015. The omission was blamed on a production error;

2. At the San Diego State University, California in 2013, investigations found that the omission of Israel in a map was deliberate, “in order to reflect the views of Arabic speakers in the Middle East”;

3. Late 2014, UK publishers Harper Collins apologized for the omission of Israel from their Collins Middle East Atlas. It would reportedly have been “unacceptable” to include Israel in atlases intended for the Middle East, so Israel was deleted to satisfy “local preferences.”

4. Giant publisher for children’s books, Scholastic., Inc, omitted Israel from their map publications in 2013. At the time the incident was reported, they remained non-committal as to whether they would correct the omission.

5. In March an Air France in-flight map omitted Israel. This anomaly, described by the airline as a “map scale and display problem” was discovered by a passenger who then blew the whistle. Similarly, in 2009, British Midland International Airlines apologized for omitting Israel from their in-flight maps, also attributed to a technical error.

It would be hard to find such examples of other nations being omitted or factually distorted on such a regular basis. Why is this?

These cases suggest a subtle ongoing propaganda war which some Bible scholars believe will eventually culminate in an international clamor for the total annihilation of Israel and her official removal from the world map:

They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee (Psalm 83:4, 5).

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The media is so bias, and against Israel, they ignore facts, make up stuff, and blame the Jews.
Hamas, PLO, the Brotherhood, all terrorist. Then there is oh they took their land, that's BS when it was British land, and before that Ottoman, before that, and before that. :wacko:
most those people was trucked in, and the ones who where not the Ottomans relocated there.
The land had Arab, and Jews living there.
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10 Things About The Latest Wave Of Jihad

October 28, 2015

Yishai Fleisher / Israel Hayom

The current state of affairs in Israel is full of lessons and truths. The sooner we learn them, the ‎sooner we can stop the attacks.‎

‎1. We can stop feeling guilty‎.

A few good things have come out of the recent wave of terror in the streets of ‎Israel. The first is that the facade that jihadis are somehow struggling for self-determination, ‎social justice, or any other noble idea has been unmasked. It is clear to us now that, unlike what ‎we've been urged to believe for the last 30 years, jihadis don't want peace. They want to ‎annihilate Jews, Judaism, and the State of Israel. This is great news. Because once the ‎pretense is dropped, we stop falling for it and begin unloading the guilty feeling that we are at ‎fault for everything. We drop the idea, for example, that building in Jerusalem or Judea is causing this war. Those few ‎voices who still try to blame the victims sound delusional and their ideas are being debunked. At ‎the same time, there is a realization that within Israel is a hostile minority that simply ‎does not accept the legitimacy of a Jewish state. Clarity is forming, and it will lead to victory.‎

‎2. The Jewish fighting spirit is back‎.

The second good thing is that the Jewish fighting spirit is back on the streets. Men and women, ‎old and young, are responding to terror with defiance. Pepper spray, rolling pins, umbrellas, ‎selfie sticks, kicks, fists, running, and especially shooting -- Israelis are shooting bad guys (and ‎gals). Yes, there have been some horrific videos of Jews being gouged as though we're back in ‎a medieval Polish countryside. But even in those videos, soon enough, a gun-toting Jew ‎vanquishes the jihadi zombie. We don't cower and shriek as they wish we would, and it ‎demoralizes them. Our people's healthy fighting instincts have (amazingly) not been ‎corrupted by the media, or by the ideology of weakness. Remember: Fighting back is good, so ‎stay tactical out there, folks!‎

‎3. When we're terrified, they win‎.

Speaking of videos and fear: Today's video-centric world often works in the jihadis' favor. ‎Terrorists want to make us feel terrified. They try to achieve that by doing a terrible act and ‎publicizing it, using video to drive terror into our hearts. If a viewer is terrified after watching the news or YouTube, then the terrorists have succeeded. Don't let them. ‎Don't let them scare you. Don't let them bully you. Don't let them unnerve you. When you walk ‎out of your house with a big fork in your bag, you are saying that you'd rather fight than be ‎scared. When you don't cancel that trip to Israel, you are saying that you will not be cowed. ‎Remember, we Jews have always kicked bullies to the curb. From Abraham to King David to ‎the Maccabees. We've fought the Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, and British, with tenacity and ‎much success. The jihad bully is next.‎

‎4. Don't mess with us. You'll lose‎.

The media, the U.S. administration and the U.N. are full of claims that ‎Israel is using too much force, indiscriminately slaughtering innocent people in ‎response to the jihad. This is classic anti-Semitic propaganda, blaming the Jews for some ‎heinous crime that in reality is the work of the anti-Semite. (This tactic ‎was also used in the blood libel and "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.") On the one hand, it is important to ‎correct those pervasive lies.

But when Israelis intentionally and justly neutralize ‎terrorists, it is important not to backpedal or mumble the pathetic formula that our army is moral ‎or that we try to save the lives of the terrorists we just shot. Rather, it is much better to say, "You ‎see? This is what happens when you mess with us." In other words, we are one crazy little ‎post-Holocaust country and we have zero tolerance for Nazi-like jihads, and if you start up with us, ‎you will face our ire and our fire. Contrary to how the world makes it seem, it's OK for us to want ‎to survive, and it's OK to say it.‎

‎5. Thanks, "world," but we can take care of ourselves‎.

Regarding "the world": It will never come to our aid. We already knew that, learned it the hard ‎way in the 1940s -- that's how the expression "never again" came to be. Part of the reason we established ‎the State of Israel is because "the world" can't be relied on to defend us. So why do we whine ‎about "the world"? Please let us stop hoping that the U.N. and the EU will condemn someone ‎other then Israel, and let us stop waiting for them. If we want to take care of business, then we ‎have to do it ourselves. Self-determination takes determination and no one will clean up our ‎mess or come to our rescue. Time to grow up, take charge, even lead.‎

‎6. Jihad is a force of chaos.

On one level, what we are dealing with here is radical Islam's fight against Israel, a Jewish, ‎non-Muslim entity in the Middle East. On a deeper level, this fight is between two universal forces: the creative and the destructive. Israel is about life, innovation, clean water, farming, ‎ education, medicine, health and prosperity. Israel is about enshrining the past and building ‎the future.

But jihadism is like a veil of darkness, repressive and regressive. It sees no value in ‎individuals, and only seeks to suppress people into conformity. Everywhere the jihad goes, it ‎brings entropy and chaos, the opposite of creativity and life. And jihad is not content with ‎the regions of destruction under its control. Rather, it is bitterly jealous of that small green country ‎in its midst. Jihad hates the Jewish state precisely because it is an oasis of life in the heart of its Middle Eastern desert. This distinction makes it all the more clear what value there is to jihad ‎civilization -- none -- and they hate us for it.‎

‎7. Our kindness goes too far.

However, while jihad is the enemy, out-of-control liberalism is its real enabler. Jihad exploits ‎Western liberalism as a weakness and a portal to spread its venom. To defeat jihad, we have to ‎root it out, deny it any ground in which to sprout, and be anything but liberal with it. We must not ‎allow the extremists to teach jihadism in the schools, to rally on the Temple Mount, to blare out ‎murderous messaged from their minarets, and certainly not allow them to use the Knesset, for heaven's sake, to spew their venom. We arrest them, hound them, chase them. They must ‎know that if they have seditious thoughts, we can hear them, and we will find them. (For a model of how to fight the jihad, just look at our decidedly-not-liberal-with-‎jihad Egyptian neighbor, President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi.) It certainly won't be easy to put the jihadi genie back in ‎the bottle, but it must be done. It is a matter of our survival.‎

‎8. Don't mess with Allah‎.

Jihad is religious. It understands the language of God better than Western talk of ‎compromise, negotiations, and peace processes. This is what I tell would-be jihadis in the ‎streets of Jerusalem: "In 1948, we were 600,000 Jews in this land. Now we are 6 ‎million. You have fought many wars against us, but you have never won. Have you ever ‎wondered why? Are we more numerous than you? Are we richer than you? No. It is because ‎Allah wills it and He has blessed us to build up this country. Even the Quran talks about the ‎Jewish people coming home -- yet you refuse to submit to Allah's will. In the meantime, your ‎countries have fallen apart. Where is Syria? Where is Iraq? Where is the strong Egypt of the ‎past? Gone. Do you know why? Because jihad is destroying you, not us. If you keep ‎fighting with us, it will be your own Islamic State that will destroy you, all because you did not accept ‎and submit to Allah's will." I have used this argument many times and seen the initial shock and ‎subsequent expressions of acceptance on their faces. In short, blame it on Allah.‎

‎9. We will never leave‎.

And speaking of a language that jihadis understand, we must send them one ‎unambiguous message: We are never, ever leaving. Arabs on the street ask me, "When will ‎there be peace?" and I tell them, "There will be peace when you understand that we will never ‎leave this land and never give up Jerusalem. We are more majnun [crazy] then you are about ‎this place. So you might as well accept the reality. If you don't, the war will continue, but we will ‎win in the end, because we are never, ever, leaving." Jihad gets courage from a sense of ‎eventual victory. Take that away and replace it with a sense that the war against Israel is totally ‎futile, a clear message that they will never win, and watch the jihadist motivation dwindle.‎

‎10. Jerusalem is at the heart of it‎.

Finally, to defeat the jihad against Israel, we must realize that the epicenter of the struggle is ‎Jerusalem. Jihadis want to keep us out of Jerusalem, out of the Old City, and certainly off the ‎Temple Mount, because they sense correctly that the bedrock of their power (and ours) is ‎Jerusalem. Holding on to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount gives them religious authority and ‎clout, and keeps us from achieving our true potential as sovereigns of this land. Indeed, almost ‎all of their anti-Israel propaganda has an image, emblem, or icon of the Dome of the Rock. They are ‎fighting to take the heart of our story, Jerusalem, and replace it with their Al-Quds. In the face ‎of this assault, we must not retreat or relinquish any sovereignty in this city. We must not ‎capitulate to the terror by dividing the city, or by keeping Jews away from the Temple Mount. ‎Every person can be part of this fight: Visit Jerusalem, buy in Jerusalem, walk the streets of ‎Jerusalem, pray in and for Jerusalem, and declare our rights to a sovereign and Israeli ‎Jerusalem. In short, to beat the jihadis' vision of Al-Quds, we must say the following phrase, ‎and mean it: "Next year, and every year, in a rebuilt and united Jerusalem."‎

The jihad against us is only partly about physical violence. It is mostly about mental intimidation ‎and exploitation of our weaknesses. Yet this challenge is also an opportunity: If we rise to the ‎occasion, overcome fear, and beat back the jihadi scourge, then Israel will take its rightful place ‎as a world leader in the defense of freedom, along with being a nation of innovation and the ‎world's spiritual superpower. ‎

Yishai Fleisher is an Israeli journalist, educator, NGO founder, and jurist. Follow him @yishaifleisher

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I hate to see people die, but the latest attacks only will harden the hardliners, and make the peace monkeys think twice in Israel.
They need to just take that slum of a UN camp, and push it on Europe where they seem to like the Palestinians.
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If the arabs ever fulfill their dream of extirminating Israel and destroying it all the peacenicks liberals will say is " it's a shame " That's not enough for the world to allow this destruction and genocide to occur or to let the muslims get a pass.
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They will say they deserved it, and good riddance, they are a very sick bunch.
The only time they cry is when they are the once being killed, and raped by Islamist.
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Liberals would like the man sitting minding his business to be hacked up by a machete . Good thing someone had a gun.


"This was illustrated very graphically in a recent attack by a Palestinian on a bus stop in Israel. Watch the footage below. WARNING: It's graphic! You'll see the Palestinian crash his car into the bus stop, exit the vehicle wielding a machete, and attack those sitting in the bus stop. A passerby draws his pistol and engages the man, but he keeps on renewing the attack and/or trying to get away. Some reports I've seen indicate that he was shot again on each of those occasions, incurring up to a dozen bullet wounds, but until the end he kept on fighting, struggling and moving. Clearly, the rounds did not do an adequate job, for whatever reason."
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Like the liberals who support the 50% of arabs living in Israel who want the genocide of nonmuslims and don't want to be citizens of Israel they don't have truth on their side. Here is yet another example of this phenomenom. Remember 50% of arabs in Israel want to remain citizens of the Jewish state.

Palestinians Fear Surveillance Cameras Will Expose The Truth About The Temple Mount

November 11, 2015

By Tom Olago

Jerusalem's Haram al-Sharif (Temple Mount), sacred to Christians, Muslims and Jews is attracting controversy of a different sort after a proposal from Jordan's King Abdullah to install 24hr surveillance cameras. This action would normally be welcomed by all people of good will, especially peace and law abiding stakeholders to the Temple Mount.

Interestingly, however, the Palestinian Authority (PA) finds the proposal alarming and is actually resisting it. Quite strange, given that the cameras should instead have given the PA cause to rejoice. The camera footage could finally prove to the world their unceasing claims that Jews have been planning to destroy the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque located at the Temple Mount, and have actually been involved in desecrating it.

So why such valuable corroborative evidence would be rejected, rather than embraced by the PA, is supposedly the million dollar question.

A recent report by Khaled Abu Toameh for the Gatestone Institute sheds some light on this. The idea to set up cameras was first raised by Jordan's King Abdullah in a bid to ease tensions at the holy site in the Old City of Jerusalem. The recent agreement between Israel and Jordan was reached under the auspices of US Secretary of State John Kerry.

Shortly after Israel accepted the idea, the PA rushed to denounce it as a "new trap." PA Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki and other officials in Ramallah expressed concern that Israel would use the cameras to "arrest Palestinians under the pretext of incitement."

During the past two years, the PA and other parties, including Hamas and the Islamic Movement (Northern Branch) in Israel, have been waging a campaign of incitement against Jewish visits to the Haram al-Sharif. The campaign claimed that Jews were planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

The report further states that the PA and the Islamic Movement in Israel hired scores of Muslim men and women to harass the Jewish visitors and the police officers escorting them. These men and women have since been filmed shouting and trying to assault Jews and policemen at the Haram al-Sharif.

This type of video evidence is something that the Palestinian Authority is trying to avoid. The PA, together with the Islamic Movement, wants the men and women to continue harassing the Jews under the pretext of "defending" the Al-Aqsa Mosque from "destruction" and "contamination."

Palestinians are also opposed to King Abdullah's idea for fear that the cameras would expose that Palestinians have been smuggling stones, firebombs and pipe bombs into Al-Aqsa Mosque for the past two years.

By rejecting the idea of setting up 24-hour surveillance cameras at the Haram al-Sharif, the Palestinian Authority has found itself on a course of collision with Jordan. Jordanian politicians and columnists have voiced outrage over the stance of the PA, and have dubbed it harmful to Palestinian and Islamic interests. Jordanian politicians have reportedly denounced the opposition of the Palestinian Authority to the cameras as "inappropriate, clumsy, tasteless and unfair."

According to sources in Ramallah, the PA's opposition to cameras should also be seen in the context of the power struggle between the Palestinians and Jordan over control of the Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem. The PA’s opposition to the installation of cameras is seen as an attempt to undermine Jordan's status at the Islamic holy sites.

Many Palestinians argue that they, and not the Jordanians, should be in charge of the Haram al-Sharif. Members of the PA are opposed to the cameras because it is a Jordanian proposal and reinforces Jordan's role at the holy site.

In the overall context, the resistance to surveillance cameras by the PA makes sense. It would expose to the world the real aggressors and desecrators, and unveil a shameful degree of hypocrisy as well as the premeditated framing of innocent parties. It would also expose divisions birthed out of rivalry within some key Arab camps.

Not exactly an ideal display for the Palestinian cause that is keen on winning international support against Israel.

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i have seen the videos, the Arabs are the aggressors, and burned the one site.
They attack people, and expect the Libtards to take up for it making stories up.
On the most part, but not all the Palestinians have always started this stuff.
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Here is yet more proof that the muslims don't want this problem solved and not only don't care about the palestinians but also only want to use them for their own purposes.

Refugees? What about the 'Palestinians'?

I have a serious question.

Why is Barack Obama hell-bent on resettling thousands of overwhelmingly Syrian Sunni Muslim "refugees" in America when we constantly hear about the plight of so-called "Palestinian" refugees who have been presumably waiting in line for resettlement for 48 to 67 years creating what we're told is the most grievous injustice on the planet today?

Obama and his supporters say they believe solving the Palestinian "refugee" crisis is the key to peace in the Middle East.

It has been suggested that a permanent "Arab Spring" is just waiting to break out once these "Palestinian refugees," who have been waiting and waiting and waiting for a solution to their plight, get justice.

So why aren't the United Nations and Obama doing anything to resettle those poor, oppressed "Palestinian refugees" in the U.S. or in Europe?

Far be it for me to give the U.N. and Obama any ideas, but the question needs to be asked.

Why aren't world leaders and various countries debating over how many "Palestinians" they will take in? Why are they focused only on this brand new "refugee" crisis?

This is a question no one dares ask. No one even considers it. When was the last time you heard the "Palestinian refugee" question addressed the way the Syrian Sunni Muslim crisis is being discussed?

The answer, of course, is never.

Why is that?

Why isn't Sweden opening its borders to tens of thousands of "Palestinians"?

Why didn't France do it?

Why didn't any European country think of it?

Why didn't any Muslim nation in the world consider it?

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The answer is very simple.

Because the so-called "Palestinian refugees" serve an important purpose to the Arab powers, the Muslim nations of the world, the United Nations and the U.S. and Western Europe.

The "Palestinian refugees" represent the eternal grievance against the one and only free state in the Middle East and the one and only Jewish state in the world.

Those who use this "crisis" as a wedge of hate and agitation against Israel don't really want to see this "refugee" crisis solved. If it were solved, then Israel would be at peace. The so-called "Palestinian" cause is the asymmetrical war of wars against the Jewish state. Having failed to destroy Israel through several conventional wars since 1948, the Arab nations finally found an alternative following the 1967 Six-Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Yasser Arafat handed it to them on a silver platter. The U.N. bought into it. The European elite bought into it. And the U.S. bought into it.

The solution has been the so-called "two-state solution" – even though another two-state solution was arranged in the mid-1940s when Jordan was created as an Arab Palestinian state and Israel as the Jewish state.

If something doesn't work the first time, progressives believe, try it again and again until it works. Make the victim of terrorism, in this case Israel, pay a bigger and bigger price.

That's why there is no thought of resettling Arab Palestinians anywhere else in the world. Nor is there any thought of forcing Arab Muslims nations to take them in any more than there is a thought of getting Saudi Arabia, with all of its land and riches, to help resolve either refugee crisis – old or new.

Do you get it?

Those who blame Israel for the Palestinian Arab refugee problem wouldn't have a grievance against Israel if they actually resettled those refugees. They wouldn't have an opportunity to use the Arab Palestinians as pawns in an asymmetrical war against the Jewish state. They would no longer have an excuse to falsely label Israel as an apartheid state. It's never really been about a just solution for Arab Palestinian refugees displaced through no fault by Israel.

Even though Palestinians wait and wait for a permanent solution, the Syrian Sunni Muslim "refugees" jump to the head of the resettlement line.

Amazing, isn't it?

And no one even asks the simple question.

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That's about it, and hell no you can keep those people, they are brought up in hate.
Reminds me of something in the bible, something like they will always be a warring people.
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I believe that what this writer wrote is as obvious as it is correct.

Palestinians: The Real Goal of the Intifada

December 07, 2015

By Bassam Tawil
Originally published by Gatestone Institute
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As the current Palestinian campaign of terrorism against Israel is about to enter its third month, it is still not clear to many what the Palestinians are trying to achieve. The Palestinians cannot even agree on a name for their campaign. Some are referring to it as an "intifada," while others are describing it as a "Habba Jamahiriya" ["popular puff," or "flurry"].

The Palestinians also have not been able to agree on the motives behind the stabbing, shooting, firebombing and car-ramming attacks. Palestinian Authority (PA) leader Mahmoud Abbas has repeatedly claimed during the past few weeks that the terrorists are setting out to kill Jews out of "despair and frustration" and the lack of a "political horizon." But Abbas seems intentionally to be ignoring that it is he and his Palestinian Authority who are responsible -- together with Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian factions -- for the violence, as a result of their daily incitement against Israel.

This is yet another instance in which anyone could have predicted what was going to happen. Throughout the past year, Abbas has been telling his people that Israel was planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque and "change the Arab and Islamic character and identity" of Jerusalem. He condemned Jews for "defiling the Aqsa Mosque with their filthy feet." Abbas, his spokesmen and PA-controlled media outlets also have also repeatedly been telling Palestinians that Israel is committing "war crimes" and "summary executions" of innocent Palestinians.

This is, as Abbas knows, exactly the type of incitement that prompts Palestinian teenagers to grab a knife, run out into the street and murder the first Jew they see. Those young Palestinians are also tragic victims of the poisonous campaign of the inflammatory anti-Israeli language emanating from Palestinian leaders such as Abbas, mosque preachers, news outlets and social media.

Contrary to Abbas's outrage, no one has yet found even one terrorist who claimed to have attacked a Jew out of "despair and frustration" at the "lack of a political horizon." If you look through the social media accounts of these young terrorists, many have said that they set out to kill Jews to "defend" Al-Aqsa Mosque. They seem to have been influenced by the romantic notion of Abbas's repeated fictitious claims that Jews were plotting to destroy the mosque, followed by high-flown fantasies of themselves as heroes charging forth to rescue it.

A public opinion poll published last week refutes Abbas's claim that Palestinians are committing terrorist attacks out of "despair and frustration." The poll, conducted by the Watan Center for Studies and Research, found that 48% of the Palestinians interviewed believe that the real goal of the "intifada" is to "liberate all of Palestine." In other words, approximately half of Palestinians believe that the goal of the "intifada" should lead to the destruction of Israel.

What is notable, is that only 11% of respondents said that the true goal of the "intifada" should be to "liberate" only those territories captured by Israel in 1967. Another 12% of Palestinians said they believe that the goal of the "intifada" was to release prisoners held by Israel.

The results of the poll, which covered 1,167 Palestinians above the age of 18, show that a majority of Palestinians continue to seek the destruction of Israel. The poll shows that only a few Palestinians see only the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem as the future Palestinian state. They want the "intifada" to replace Israel with a Palestinian state -- preferably, one that now would be ruled by Hamas and jihadi organizations such as Islamic State and Al-Qaeda.

These Palestinians do not see a difference between, say, Ma'aleh Adumim, a "settlement" on the outskirts of Jerusalem, and any city inside Israel. One only needs to look at reports in the Palestinian media to see that Tel Aviv, Rishon Lezion, Kiryat Gat and Ra'anana are all considered "settlements." These reports also show that Palestinians do not see a difference between a Jew living in the West Bank and Israel -- instead, they are all depicted as "settlers" and "colonialists."

None of the Palestinians interviewed for the poll complained about "despair and frustration," or the lack of a "political horizon." Obviously, they are driven by hatred for Jews and Israel. They do not, however, have a problem with "settlements" or "poor living conditions." They have a problem with Israel's existence. A majority believes that Israel can -- and should -- be destroyed. They are not, as Palestinian leaders claim, seeking a two-state solution.

According to the poll, more than 75% of Palestinians support the use of violence against Israel. More than 44% of respondents support the use of firearms against Israel; 18% are in favor of using knives to kill Jews, and another 14% would like to see Palestinians use stones. This contradicts Abbas's claim that the Palestinians want a "peaceful and popular" uprising.

Another noteworthy finding of the poll is that 72% of Palestinians want the current "intifada" to continue. In other words, an overwhelming majority of Palestinians would like to see their youths carry out more terror attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers. They want to see more terror attacks because their leaders and journalists are telling them that those who kill Jews are "heroes" and "martyrs" who will have streets, squares, schools and tournaments named after them.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, who visited Israel and Ramallah last week in a bid to end the Palestinian terror attacks, was unable to make any progress. Even before he arrived in Ramallah to meet with President Abbas, Kerry was strongly condemned for referring to the Palestinian violence as "terrorism." Palestinians who demonstrated not far from Abbas's office shouted slogans condemning the U.S. Administration for its attempt to stop the terror attacks against Israelis and called for boycotting Kerry. The protesters also declared Kerry persona non grata in Ramallah.

Kerry and the U.S. Administration should know by now that the Palestinians are waging war on Israel not because of "despair and frustration," but because they aspire to destroy Israel, as the results of the recent poll show.

The goal of the Palestinians is the destruction of Israel. This fact is something that other Western parties need to understand -- that the Palestinian "struggle" is mainly aimed at eliminating Israel, and not "the establishment of a Palestinian state th
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i think they are frustrated, and this is the best way of killing Jews with the least about of loss to infrastructure while they build back up again.
The media is really quiet about all these attacks, if it was Jews after Palestinians the media would be full out damn the Jews, hate Jews.
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Obama naturally feels the urgent need to force the Jews to have to live among these genocidal maniacs who want the Jews [ and arab Christians and druze ] enslaved and/or genocided. Obama naturally as we know feels that the USA needs to be filled with hordes of these people who also want nonmuslim Americans to be killed in likeminded attacks. Israel knows that if they cannot allow these muslims out of Jewish areas.

New Poll - Majority Of Palestinians Support Knife Attacks, Want Escalation In Intifada To Include Arms

December 21, 2015

By Tom Olago

The killing of innocent Jews by stabbing seems not to be losing any momentum. Israel has faced a three-month wave of nearly daily Palestinian stabbing, car-ramming and shooting attacks.

Further, indications are that the trend in Israel is now being ‘exported’ by Palestinian emigrants to other global capitals, especially in Europe where there are higher concentrations of Jews.

A public opinion poll published Monday by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) found that two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing attacks. Other findings showed that 60% of those polled support an armed Intifada and 66% think an escalation in violence would positively serve them.

An important contributor to these belligerent attitudes is the constant incitement to violence, and fueling of hatred by the most influential people of all: the Palestinian leadership.

Their tactics range from praising attackers to inspiring new ones to arise and replace those arrested or slain in the course of these criminal attacks that are now routine.

Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal well exemplifies this approach. A recent Blaze.com report carried a newly translated video showing him praising young Palestinians who have attacked Israelis using their knives and cars as “the most exalted and the noblest of people” and saying Islamic teachings support their attacks.

Mashaal is reported to have encouraged Palestinian youths to use whatever means at their disposal to attack Jews: “Weapons like Kalashnikovs or missiles are not at hand, but there are knives and cars with which to run over the enemies… the young man who puts his life on the line and the heroic sister, with nothing but a knife at hand, are justified and Allah accepts them. This is up to Allah, but he accepts their jihad and their martyrdom,” he said.

For such leaders, peace is not an option. Dismissing the concept of negotiations with Israel, Mashaal said, “The so-called peace process is futile. There is no peace. Only the path of jihad, sacrifice and blood.”

In the same vein, Ynetnews.com reported Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas’ recent remarks which referred to the last three months of violence as a "justified popular uprising".

Another key statistic is that 40% of Gazans are looking to emigrate to places such as Europe. Some of the reasons given for wanting to emmigrate include the strict social restrictions imposed by the governing Hamas administration, which enforces Islamic code, such as veiling women, banning alcohol and the mixing of sexes in public.

Yet, indications abound that once Gazans arrive in Europe, they attempt to further their Palestinian cause through attacks on Jews, aided by other pro-Palestinian and anti-Semitic groups.

Many French Jews are feeling the rise in Anti-Semitism and some 8,000 French Jews moved to Israel in 2015.

Some Pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Paris had turned violent, with some protesters damaging Jewish shops and threatening synagogues.

A recent report by the Americanthinker.com says of Sweden, another popular destination for Gazans and other emigrating Arabs and refugee status seekers:

“In most recent years it has had a high rate of anti-Semitism, the highest rate in Europe, and been the scene of violence and discrimination against Jews. Swedish towns have witnessed attacks on Jewish youth centers and synagogues, death threats, anti-Semitic graffiti on Jewish property, and use of Molotov cocktails against Jewish funeral parlors”.

This is a general pattern now spreading throughout Europe’s capitals and cities: the simultaneous ‘exporting’ of the attacks on Jews from the streets of Israel to the streets of Europe, even as the local attacks on Jews in Israel intensify.

However, this anti-Semitic strategy may well backfire on its proponents as its key by-product is that Jews all over Europe are now reportedly returning in droves back to Israel, increasing the settler population to accommodate their return, while pro-Palestinian Arabs leave for Europe.

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:kez: All a plan for the one worlders, keep the people fighting while they gain control, Obama is doing a grand job here creating hate, and distrust.
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oh yes these are the kind of people the political correct love so much. Maybe our tax dollars should fund a register of martyrs who kill Americans and Canadians for the refugees and muslims we have in our nations ? This article plainly shows why Israel simply has to have a wall keeping these psychotic animals out.

Palestinian Health Ministry Keeps Register Of "Martyrs" Who Kill Jews

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Keeping a registry of "martyrs" who have earned that title while murdering Jews may not be the first thing that springs to mind when you consider the tasks of a health ministry. But welcome to the Health Ministry of the Palestinian Authority, where good "health" includes paying tribute to Jew-killers.

Nashat Milhem, the Israeli Arab terrorist who perpetrated a terror attack in Tel Aviv on Jan. 1 was added to the Palestinian Health Ministry's register of "martyrs" within two hours of his death, but was subsequently removed. According to Palestinian Affairs expert Khaled Abu Toameh, speaking to The Algemeiner on Sunday, "Someone must have told the PA that having Milhem deemed a 'martyr' might not be such a wise move, due to the way it would be perceived in Israel and abroad, so it suddenly disappeared."

However, Palestinian Arab social media exploded in a frenzy against the PA for having removed the name. The PA issued the following as a response to the criticism, as posted and translated by MEMRI:


"The Palestinian Ministry of Health stressed that the recording of martyrs' names is defined as one of its official functions and its areas of responsibility in the West Bank, including east Jerusalem, and in the Gaza Strip [but not elsewhere].

The ministry added, in a press statement issued today, Saturday, that the non-inclusion of the martyr Nashat Milhem's name in its register [of martyrs] does not indicate that the title [of martyr] has been denied him. On the contrary, he is one of the most valued martyrs, and his name is inscribed in his pure blood that watered the soil of our free homeland. [The ministry] noted that the non-inclusion of the martyr Nashat Milhem's name [in the register] stems from the fact that, as part of its activity, the ministry is in charge of recording patients, diseases, martyrs and the wounded [in the West Bank and Gaza only]. The non-inclusion of Milhem in its register does not indicate that he is not [considered] a martyr. On the contrary, he is like any other Palestinian martyr anywhere in the world.

"The ministry clarified in its statement that the exploiting of this small detail by a number of people, and the leveling of accusations of treason at ministry employees, [are acts that] have nothing to do with patriotism, since we did not hear any of those people expressing any criticism of Israel's crimes against our people. Had [those people, instead of] investing their energy in maligning the ministry, invested it in exposing the crimes of the occupation, their efforts would have been written in letters of gold.

"The ministry said: We are proud of our Palestinian people in the '48 territories, and are proud of their sacrifices that have gone down in history and of their accomplishments in every domain -- ideological, academic and national. Their profound affiliation with their motherland, Palestine, cannot be denied under any circumstances."

Pay close attention not only to the high praise of a terrorist who set out in cold blood to mass-murder Jews, but the reference to Tel Aviv as "the soil of our free homeland" and the reference to "our Palestinian people in the '48 territories."

Anyone left with any illusions of the official intentions of the PA after reading the above is truly delusional. Not only are the murders of Jews praised -- in accordance with the intense incitement against Jews and the State of Israel for decades on PA TV, in schools and kindergartens, mosques and on the streets -- but it is evident beyond any doubt that the PA considers all of Israel "Palestine."

The PA is a cunning and unceasing enemy with no intentions of ever giving up its terrorist war against Israel. The fact that two-thirds of the inhabitants in the PA support the current onslaught against Israeli civilians as a result of the PA's ceaseless incitement should convince any doubters.

The question remains what to do. Demanding that the PA stop the incitement is clearly not working, since the PA continues to incite and instigate around the clock. We have let them do this for decades, thus helping create an entire generation of youngsters who wish to see our demise. Surely, more of the same is not going to change the predicament that we find ourselves in now. In the long term, it does not matter how many terrorists we shoot in self-defense, since the PA only keeps sending more our way.

Since talk clearly is not working, it is time for action. We could start by putting in place effective sanctions on the PA. After all, Israel supplies the PA with everything that it needs. It seems only reasonable to impose sanctions as long as the declared goal of the PA is to "water the soil" of our country with their "pure blood" while shooting, car ramming and stabbing Israelis to further our demise.

The idea of putting hard sanctions on the PA may sound unpalatable to some, especially on the Israeli Left, but then they might consider that being murdered every day simply for living and breathing as Jews in Israel should be even more unpalatable.

You cannot wage war against Israel with one hand and enjoy the benefits of Israeli cooperation on the other. We need to stop acting as if we live in Chelm [in Jewish folklore, a mythical town populated by fools]. If we want to end this, we need to treat the PA as the thing it really is: our enemy.


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:roll: They are so sick, the whole militant lot needs shipped to Mars with those funding them.
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It always astounds me when I hear people say how the Israelis are victimising the Palestinians. These people all don't know very much about the topic either. Do they know that 50% of arabs want to be under Israeli rule ? Do the consider that Israel is retaliating for attacks on innocent civilians ? They don't care about the many victims of arab muslims ? It's not the arab Christians or druze causing any problems. Hitting bullies hard is what works and the Jews have to do this so that these animals who call for their genocide don't succeed. These muslims also want every nonmuslims genocide too by the way libtards.

Israel strikes Gaza targets in response to rocket fire

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Two people where just attacked, and stabbed also, the attackers where guess who, and guess what they died.
I carry a gun most the time now, but there it would be all the time with stab resistant, and ballistic clothing.
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The lefties aren't sticking up for the victims of these attacks yet the killers are considered the victims that the leftists care so much about.

Another Proud Palestinian Parent

"I am proud of my son," the father of 16-year-old Morad Adais, of the Palestinian village of Dura, declared this week.

What do you suppose was the occasion for this burst of parental pride? What was it that young Morad did which so pleased his father? An impressive report card? Helping with home repairs? Taking care of younger siblings?


No, what Morad did to bring honor to the Adais family was that he broke into the home of a young Israeli Jewish mother of six and brutally stabbed her to death.

Not that the elder Adais is the exception. On the contrary, his response is the rule in Palestinian society.

Just two weeks ago, the official Facebook page of the Fatah movement posted a large photo of another Palestinian parent expressing pride at the deeds of a murderous child. On Jan. 5, Fatah published a photo of the mother of the late Muhammed Shamasneh. She is smiling broadly and making a "V" sign with her right hand. The caption under the photo reads: "How great you are, O mother of the Martyr."

Shamasneh, 22, was a Palestinian terrorist who stabbed three Jews near the Jerusalem central bus station last Oct. 12, and then was shot by the police. Fatah, which is glorifying Shamasneh, is chaired by Mahmoud Abbas, who is also president of the moderate Palestinian Authority (PA).

The website of Palestinian Media Watch (http://www.palwatch.org) overflows with examples of pro-terrorism statements by parents of Palestinian terrorists.

Advocates of the Palestinian cause are always telling us that ordinary Palestinians are just like ordinary folks everywhere. They say Palestinian moms and dads have the same concerns as moms and dads in America, Israel, and anyplace else.
Then-president Bill Clinton epitomized this attitude when he met with Israeli parents of terror victims on Dec. 15, 1998, and then traveled to Gaza to meet with Palestinian parents of imprisoned terrorists. The president told reporters: If I had met them in reverse order, I would not have known which ones were Israeli and which Palestinian.

Even back then, the president should have been able to tell the difference. The Israeli parents were the ones mourning the deaths of their innocent children. The Palestinian parents were the ones cheering on their children for murdering the Israeli children.

The problem is not just individual Palestinian parents endorsing their childrens terrorism. The problem is that the official Palestinian leadership actively encourages such attitudes. Consider how the PA's Minister of Womens Affairs, Haifa Al-Agha, recently explained the "uniqueness" of Palestinian women: "The Palestinian womens uniqueness differentiates her from the women of the world, as only she receives the news of her sons Martyrdom with cries of joy."

Her statement appeared in the official daily newspaper of the moderate PA, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, on Nov. 7, 2015. Such declarations appear in the official PA news media every day. They send a very specific message to the Palestinian public; and its clear that the message has been received, loud and clear.

As much as we wish that the Palestinians were moderate, reasonable people who hate violence and terrorism and would live in peace with Israel if they were just given a state of their own, they keep demonstrating, through their words and deeds, exactly the opposite.

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