Mad Donna

[Mel Gibson]

I got into my Father's porn stash in the 1980's also, and I sort of remember that transition too... So ya, there were certainly hairy muffs around in the 1980's also!

[Odinson]

Madonna is half Italian... So you just know she'll have an insanely hairy bush!

Her underarm hair was gross as well.

She was always a skeevy looking bitch.

Going naturelle was normal in the 80´s.

Bullshit....maybe out in the snowbound wilderness it was... We here in civilization practiced proper hygiene.

I think you are confused with the grunge era of the 90s...Baggy, dirty clothes, everything flannel and an aversion to soap and water was all the rage ....

I was in college then...The girls stopped styling their hair, stopped wearing makeup or wore minimal makeup. Everyone dressed in oversized shapeless clothes, as did the guys. And worst of all a lot of people my age stopped bathing everyday. You have no idea how disgusting it was sitting in a lecture hall surround by people who just couldn't be bothered to get out of bed before class to shower and comb their greasy hair.

When I look back at the pics, it now realize that it was an extremely unflattering and gross look and it all came out of the fucking shitbag liberal northwest.

Bullshit.. All our porn mags came from America.. And all of the 80´s models had a jungle between their legs..
Even armpit hair...

And these were american model girls..

I call horseshit on that...American women have been shaving their armpits since before the 1950s and trimming their who-ha since the 1970s...We were shaving, waxing and bathing LONG before it was fashionable in the rest of the western world....Hence our extreme distaste for that aggressive European body odor shit.

You probably saw some hairy freak fetish mag on a newsstand right next to the "Plumper" and the "Chicks with Dicks" magazines....

Besides I think you are much younger than me...You were probably a child durning the 80s...What the hell were you doing reading porn mags?

NO offense but I'm thinking all your porn probably comes across the border wrapped in brown paper from the Russian black market,...where all the women look like dancing bears...

In U.S.S.R. prostitute pays you....

The porn mags from the 80´s have women with a bush between their legs.. Playboy and all that.

It does make a woman look more natural and wild.


The porn mags are on the top row in the magazine stand.. A lot of us pretend to be looking at the comic books..

FYI the porn mag with girls like you in it, is called "lollo".. Because of your big lollos..

I´ve always been interested in nude females.. And I found my relatives stash.


We got the american brands and the finnish brands...


Its actually in the west where the women pay men to have sex with them..


If you want sex without a condom... +150e.

You want me to cum on your face... +100e.

If you wanna give me just the blowjob... 50e.


Full boyfriend experience.. 2500e..

[Odinson]

I got into my Father's porn stash in the 1980's also, and I sort of remember that transition too... So ya, there were certainly hairy muffs around in the 1980's also!

True..

And there is a change in the curves too.


The 80´s porn women are these goddesses of fertility with big tits and wide hips..

Now the models dont have curves at all and their cooch is hairless... Looks like a little girl..

[Mel Gibson]

Now the models dont have curves at all and their cooch is hairless... Looks like a little girl..

You say that like this is a bad thing!

[Blue Frost]

I like curves as long as not overly, and outwardly. The hair is fine if trimmed, and not out of control like the deep Congo. David Attenborough might be filming in there

[Renee]

The porn mags from the 80´s have women with a bush between their legs.. Playboy and all that.

It does make a woman look more natural and wild.


The porn mags are on the top row in the magazine stand.. A lot of us pretend to be looking at the comic books..

FYI the porn mag with girls like you in it, is called "lollo".. Because of your big lollos..

I´ve always been interested in nude females.. And I found my relatives stash.


We got the american brands and the finnish brands...


Its actually in the west where the women pay men to have sex with them..


If you want sex without a condom... +150e.

You want me to cum on your face... +100e.

If you wanna give me just the blowjob... 50e.


Full boyfriend experience.. 2500e..

What do you mean..."girls like me"? I can only guess what lewd, crude, sexist meaning is attached to that...

I've come to the conclusion that most men are fucking pigs....obsessively fascinated with sex, breasts, genitals and bodily fluids and bodily emissions.

Even little boys, once they get out of the toddler stage are disgusting in this respect. My sister has two boys. They are teens now and although I love them both to death...they are gross, crude and dirty little creatures...

The shit my sister has put up with living in a house full of penis is atrocious. Wet toilet seats, porn videos hidden on computers...sperm stains on sheets, gooey tissues by the bedside, skid marked underwear, dirty clothes put back in drawers with the clean ones....just fucking gross... ..
And they do incredibly stupid and dangerous shit too, all because the male adolescent brain develops so freaking slowly.

And it's my understanding from talking to relatives and friends who have boys, that this is nothing unusual....I thank God everyday that I had girls....they come with there own set of problems but NOTHING like the disgusting shit you have with boys.

[Blue Frost]

Boys will be boys they say, and most will.
I never had skid marks, that comes from a sorry person that don't know how to wipe.
Never had tissues by the bed unless I have the flu, or something, and I picked them up.
My clothing was always clean, and me also.
I was reckless up into my 30s, was a lot of fun
As for sex, I thought of the girl, or woman over myself, and let them lead the way. I was happy to have the company of them, sex was a byproduct of a relationship.

I'm not the usual I guess, but don't care what people thought of me then, or now.
Other guys I saw as a bit ape like, and I wanted to get away from the species mindset even though I am one. I guess more evolved than just a brutish spank monkey.

[Odinson]

The porn mags from the 80´s have women with a bush between their legs.. Playboy and all that.

It does make a woman look more natural and wild.


The porn mags are on the top row in the magazine stand.. A lot of us pretend to be looking at the comic books..

FYI the porn mag with girls like you in it, is called "lollo".. Because of your big lollos..

I´ve always been interested in nude females.. And I found my relatives stash.


We got the american brands and the finnish brands...


Its actually in the west where the women pay men to have sex with them..


If you want sex without a condom... +150e.

You want me to cum on your face... +100e.

If you wanna give me just the blowjob... 50e.


Full boyfriend experience.. 2500e..

What do you mean..."girls like me"? I can only guess what lewd, crude, sexist meaning is attached to that...

I've come to the conclusion that most men are fucking pigs....obsessively fascinated with sex, breasts, genitals and bodily fluids and bodily emissions.

Even little boys, once they get out of the toddler stage are disgusting in this respect. My sister has two boys. They are teens now and although I love them both to death...they are gross, crude and dirty little creatures...

The shit my sister has put up with living in a house full of penis is atrocious. Wet toilet seats, porn videos hidden on computers...sperm stains on sheets, gooey tissues by the bedside, skid marked underwear, dirty clothes put back in drawers with the clean ones....just fucking gross... ..
And they do incredibly stupid and dangerous shit too, all because the male adolescent brain develops so freaking slowly.

And it's my understanding from talking to relatives and friends who have boys, that this is nothing unusual....I thank God everyday that I had girls....they come with there own set of problems but NOTHING like the disgusting shit you have with boys.

Girls like you... Busty, curvy, big butt, big lips.. Its a magazine for men who like women that have something to hold on to.

Its more of an unexplained interest in naked females.. Doesnt know what to do with them LITERALLY.. Dont know what goes where.


Teenage girls arent any different.. We guys are just being discreet about certain things..
Stains all over the place because of "leaking".
The toilet is taken for an hour... Wonder why.. Dont trust the vibrating electric toothbrush.
How stupid do you think we are... You are flicking your bean in there.

Hair in the sink..
Smelly packs of period diapers in the trashcan..
All this junk in the bathroom..


Plus side in raising boys is that you dont have to worry about them as much you have to worry about girls..

The attraction to the wrong type of boys..
Putting yourself in harms way because its just so damn exciting.

Spreading your snatch to some random people in the net...
Sending nude pics to boys... Which then get spread around.
Wearing some fucking hoe clothes..
The real bad ass teenage angst.

You dont have to worry about boys finding themselves as a sex-slave in Syria.. Buns in the oven and "the prince" has just died in some attack.
You get killed because you liked the bad boy.

Having a daughter is like this plague just descended upon the household.. What if she is a hoe and all that..

[Renee]

The porn mags from the 80´s have women with a bush between their legs.. Playboy and all that.

It does make a woman look more natural and wild.


The porn mags are on the top row in the magazine stand.. A lot of us pretend to be looking at the comic books..

FYI the porn mag with girls like you in it, is called "lollo".. Because of your big lollos..

I´ve always been interested in nude females.. And I found my relatives stash.


We got the american brands and the finnish brands...


Its actually in the west where the women pay men to have sex with them..


If you want sex without a condom... +150e.

You want me to cum on your face... +100e.

If you wanna give me just the blowjob... 50e.


Full boyfriend experience.. 2500e..

What do you mean..."girls like me"? I can only guess what lewd, crude, sexist meaning is attached to that...

I've come to the conclusion that most men are fucking pigs....obsessively fascinated with sex, breasts, genitals and bodily fluids and bodily emissions.

Even little boys, once they get out of the toddler stage are disgusting in this respect. My sister has two boys. They are teens now and although I love them both to death...they are gross, crude and dirty little creatures...

The shit my sister has put up with living in a house full of penis is atrocious. Wet toilet seats, porn videos hidden on computers...sperm stains on sheets, gooey tissues by the bedside, skid marked underwear, dirty clothes put back in drawers with the clean ones....just fucking gross... ..
And they do incredibly stupid and dangerous shit too, all because the male adolescent brain develops so freaking slowly.

And it's my understanding from talking to relatives and friends who have boys, that this is nothing unusual....I thank God everyday that I had girls....they come with there own set of problems but NOTHING like the disgusting shit you have with boys.

Girls like you... Busty, curvy, big butt, big lips.. Its a magazine for men who like women that have something to hold on to.

Its more of an unexplained interest in naked females.. Doesnt know what to do with them LITERALLY.. Dont know what goes where.


Teenage girls arent any different.. We guys are just being discreet about certain things..
Stains all over the place because of "leaking".
The toilet is taken for an hour... Wonder why.. Dont trust the vibrating electric toothbrush.
How stupid do you think we are... You are flicking your bean in there.

Hair in the sink..
Smelly packs of period diapers in the trashcan..
All this junk in the bathroom..


Plus side in raising boys is that you dont have to worry about them as much you have to worry about girls..

The attraction to the wrong type of boys..
Putting yourself in harms way because its just so damn exciting.

Spreading your snatch to some random people in the net...
Sending nude pics to boys... Which then get spread around.
Wearing some fucking hoe clothes..
The real bad ass teenage angst.

You dont have to worry about boys finding themselves as a sex-slave in Syria.. Buns in the oven and "the prince" has just died in some attack.
You get killed because you liked the bad boy.

Having a daughter is like this plague just descended upon the household.. What if she is a hoe and all that..

I figured it had something crude to do with a certian type of figure....Again it just shows how men are obsessed with the visual part of sexual attraction.

Most of what you are complaining about where it comes to raising girls, is bullshit gleaned right out of TV programs and misogynistic websites...They are extremes that are used to create stereotypes so men can justify being asshats....The reality of the situation is that I can almost guarantee that I know a bit more about raising girls and dealing with their associated shortcomings than you do....

Furthermore...to answer your question..."How stupid do you think we are?"....I don't think you want me to answer that question. In fact I know you don't....

[Odinson]

The porn mags from the 80´s have women with a bush between their legs.. Playboy and all that.

It does make a woman look more natural and wild.


The porn mags are on the top row in the magazine stand.. A lot of us pretend to be looking at the comic books..

FYI the porn mag with girls like you in it, is called "lollo".. Because of your big lollos..

I´ve always been interested in nude females.. And I found my relatives stash.


We got the american brands and the finnish brands...


Its actually in the west where the women pay men to have sex with them..


If you want sex without a condom... +150e.

You want me to cum on your face... +100e.

If you wanna give me just the blowjob... 50e.


Full boyfriend experience.. 2500e..

What do you mean..."girls like me"? I can only guess what lewd, crude, sexist meaning is attached to that...

I've come to the conclusion that most men are fucking pigs....obsessively fascinated with sex, breasts, genitals and bodily fluids and bodily emissions.

Even little boys, once they get out of the toddler stage are disgusting in this respect. My sister has two boys. They are teens now and although I love them both to death...they are gross, crude and dirty little creatures...

The shit my sister has put up with living in a house full of penis is atrocious. Wet toilet seats, porn videos hidden on computers...sperm stains on sheets, gooey tissues by the bedside, skid marked underwear, dirty clothes put back in drawers with the clean ones....just fucking gross... ..
And they do incredibly stupid and dangerous shit too, all because the male adolescent brain develops so freaking slowly.

And it's my understanding from talking to relatives and friends who have boys, that this is nothing unusual....I thank God everyday that I had girls....they come with there own set of problems but NOTHING like the disgusting shit you have with boys.

Girls like you... Busty, curvy, big butt, big lips.. Its a magazine for men who like women that have something to hold on to.

Its more of an unexplained interest in naked females.. Doesnt know what to do with them LITERALLY.. Dont know what goes where.


Teenage girls arent any different.. We guys are just being discreet about certain things..
Stains all over the place because of "leaking".
The toilet is taken for an hour... Wonder why.. Dont trust the vibrating electric toothbrush.
How stupid do you think we are... You are flicking your bean in there.

Hair in the sink..
Smelly packs of period diapers in the trashcan..
All this junk in the bathroom..


Plus side in raising boys is that you dont have to worry about them as much you have to worry about girls..

The attraction to the wrong type of boys..
Putting yourself in harms way because its just so damn exciting.

Spreading your snatch to some random people in the net...
Sending nude pics to boys... Which then get spread around.
Wearing some fucking hoe clothes..
The real bad ass teenage angst.

You dont have to worry about boys finding themselves as a sex-slave in Syria.. Buns in the oven and "the prince" has just died in some attack.
You get killed because you liked the bad boy.

Having a daughter is like this plague just descended upon the household.. What if she is a hoe and all that..

I figured it had something crude to do with a certian type of figure....Again it just shows how men are obsessed with the visual part of sexual attraction.

Most of what you are complaining about where it comes to raising girls, is bullshit gleaned right out of TV programs and misogynistic websites...They are extremes that are used to create stereotypes so men can justify being asshats....The reality of the situation is that I can almost guarantee that I know a bit more about raising girls and dealing with their associated shortcomings than you do....

Furthermore...to answer your question..."How stupid do you think we are?"....I don't think you want me to answer that question. In fact I know you don't....

You women are obsessed with the visual part as well.. But you want the beastly looking man to have a aggressive attitude as well.
You need a determined man in order to get off.

The fairytale that women dont care about looks, is a lie spread by hollywood..

Life-experience and biology books... I´ve seen it all and it makes scientific sense that you like the aggressive male.
What you chose as a husband is just more proof. And I think your next man will be from the nordic biker viking side as well.

Assume your girls are gonna be the same... Its only natural..
If you tell them not to do it, you are just gonna make it hotter for them.

I know this because I´ve been the guy the parents know nothing about..
Luring the A-students to the dark-side of the force.

And I dont sugarcoat the past like a woman does.


When you add the fact that women are physically really weak... You always have a concern for their health..

[Odinson]

Boys will be boys they say, and most will.
I never had skid marks, that comes from a sorry person that don't know how to wipe.
Never had tissues by the bed unless I have the flu, or something, and I picked them up.
My clothing was always clean, and me also.
I was reckless up into my 30s, was a lot of fun
As for sex, I thought of the girl, or woman over myself, and let them lead the way. I was happy to have the company of them, sex was a byproduct of a relationship.

I'm not the usual I guess, but don't care what people thought of me then, or now.
Other guys I saw as a bit ape like, and I wanted to get away from the species mindset even though I am one. I guess more evolved than just a brutish spank monkey.

Renees nephews sound like spoiled little mamas boys..

I always ask my niece whether it would help if I whooped her ass before she empties the washing machine... Or collects her crap from the floor..


My sister-in-law always says she is gonna send my niece to me when she hits puberty..

Isolate her from bad influences in the capital area.

[Blue Frost]

All kids need is some parenting, and their butts whipped into shape, most would be good after that.
I see them today running the show in households, no parents to be seen.
All kids don't need whipped, but I would say 1/3 of them need a good beating along with the parents for letting them be brats.

[Renee]

Boys will be boys they say, and most will.
I never had skid marks, that comes from a sorry person that don't know how to wipe.
Never had tissues by the bed unless I have the flu, or something, and I picked them up.
My clothing was always clean, and me also.
I was reckless up into my 30s, was a lot of fun
As for sex, I thought of the girl, or woman over myself, and let them lead the way. I was happy to have the company of them, sex was a byproduct of a relationship.

I'm not the usual I guess, but don't care what people thought of me then, or now.
Other guys I saw as a bit ape like, and I wanted to get away from the species mindset even though I am one. I guess more evolved than just a brutish spank monkey.

Renees nephews sound like spoiled little mamas boys..

I always ask my niece whether it would help if I whooped her ass before she empties the washing machine... Or collects her crap from the floor..


My sister-in-law always says she is gonna send my niece to me when she hits puberty..

Isolate her from bad influences in the capital area.

No dumbass they aren't spoiled....My sister keeps a pretty tight rein on them....How else do you think she finds all their dirty little secrets?....But adolescent kids being what they are,.... are going to push and test the limits every chance they get.

As for my choice in a husband....I was young at the time, rebellious and somewhat reckless. My judge of character was not what it is today...Maturity and life lessons learned the hard way have taught me a lot about people. Probably more than most my age.

Furthermore; I admit I made my choice partly on looks BUT unlike men, women expect more to come along with the pretty face....Looks dont last forever and there has to be something of substance underneath the veneer....We expect things like fidelity, loyalty, equal partnership, emotional support and respect for the relationship....We expect to get back what we give and that is all anyone can ask for.

Unfortunately not a lot of men can live up to those expectations. You for example are nothing special...you are just a man...no better and probably no worse than the rest.

[Blue Frost]

Renee, you just explained what i would want from a woman, and I think a lot of men want the same thing. Yeah we are silly when it comes to woman, and act like apes a lot of times, but there is more to us than that.
Being burned by some don't make that the majority.
What you just said about men, I have dwelt with a lot of woman that are the same, and expecting more than they give by far.

[Renee]

Renee, you just explained what i would want from a woman, and I think a lot of men want the same thing. Yeah we are silly when it comes to woman, and act like apes a lot of times, but there is more to us than that.
Being burned by some don't make that the majority.
What you just said about men, I have dwelt with a lot of woman that are the same, and expecting more than they give by far.

I understand that there are plenty of times when it goes both ways...Women can be stupid and selfish too...especially in this age of self entitlement and instant gratification.

But in general I have found that more often than not, it's the women that makes more of an attempt to hold a relationship together. Men in general are not built for monogamy nor are they built for modern equal relationships. Their need to dominate and shirk their responsibilities in a relationship is genetic. Most men would be perfectly happy if you just suck their dick...feed them....and leave them come and go as they please. Whatever relationship/family demands beyond what they WANT to deal with, need to be left off their plate or they get angry, sullen and argumentative. Most men have the attitude that maintaining a relationship is "women's work" and beneath them.

Ever wonder why the black community has a male roll model problem?....It's because black males in general are allowed to behave and act out their innate maleness unchecked....If you let men behave like men in their truest form; you get a antisocial societal dynamic that is destructive to everything we supposedly value in western civilization.

Now I'm not going to be so rigid as to paint ALL men this way....But there are an awful lot of them that are that way in varying degrees....I'm also not advocating the emasculation of men the way today's lunatic feminists do; but there has to be a balance between maleness and properly adjusted male/female socialization. Unfortunately that balance is too often never achieved.

[Mel Gibson]

Renee is simply just difficult for any man to endure... I mean, you can't tell me she wouldn't be stomping around 24/7, shouting orders like a drill sergeant...

[Renee]

Renee is simply just difficult for any man to endure... I mean, you can't tell me she wouldn't be stomping around 24/7, shouting orders like a drill sergeant...

What the fuck do you know about enduring anything?

You're half in a bag 24/7/365 and on a good day,...you don't wet your bed... . ..Most likely you run to the bottle like it's the cure for whatever ails you.....I imagine that's your way of coping even with the simplest of life's issues.

In a way, you are an example of what I'm talking about.

[Blue Frost]

Renee, you just explained what i would want from a woman, and I think a lot of men want the same thing. Yeah we are silly when it comes to woman, and act like apes a lot of times, but there is more to us than that.
Being burned by some don't make that the majority.
What you just said about men, I have dwelt with a lot of woman that are the same, and expecting more than they give by far.

I understand that there are plenty of times when it goes both ways...Women can be stupid and selfish too...especially in this age of self entitlement and instant gratification.

But in general I have found that more often than not, it's the women that makes more of an attempt to hold a relationship together. Men in general are not built for monogamy nor are they built for modern equal relationships. Their need to dominate and shirk their responsibilities in a relationship is genetic. Most men would be perfectly happy if you just suck their dick...feed them....and leave them come and go as they please. Whatever relationship/family demands beyond what they WANT to deal with, need to be left off their plate or they get angry, sullen and argumentative. Most men have the attitude that maintaining a relationship is "women's work" and beneath them.

Ever wonder why the black community has a male roll model problem?....It's because black males in general are allowed to behave and act out their innate maleness unchecked....If you let men behave like men in their truest form; you get a antisocial societal dynamic that is destructive to everything we supposedly value in western civilization.

Now I'm not going to be so rigid as to paint ALL men this way....But there are an awful lot of them that are that way in varying degrees....I'm also not advocating the emasculation of men the way today's lunatic feminists do; but there has to be a balance between maleness and properly adjusted male/female socialization. Unfortunately that balance is too often never achieved.

I dwelt with woman, and watched them most my life, and they are bad as men. Let woman run over you, and they will keep doing it, and let their friends come in just like men, and they will do even more stupid stuff.
I see woman doing about the same as men in large numbers.
Blacks is another matter all together, their culture, media, and upbringing has a lot to do with that.

Woman will try to keep the thing together, but most will as long as they can keep doing the stuff they where doing bad, and want you to accept it.
Men, and woman both are horrible when it comes to wanting the other to accept their worst flaws that nobody should accept to begin with.

[Mel Gibson]

What the fuck do you know about enduring anything?

You're half in a bag 24/7/365 and on a good day,...you don't wet your bed... . ..Most likely you run to the bottle like it's the cure for whatever ails you.....I imagine that's your way of coping even with the simplest of life's issues.

In a way, you are an example of what I'm talking about.

Your deflection only gets a B- grade this time...

[Odinson]

Boys will be boys they say, and most will.
I never had skid marks, that comes from a sorry person that don't know how to wipe.
Never had tissues by the bed unless I have the flu, or something, and I picked them up.
My clothing was always clean, and me also.
I was reckless up into my 30s, was a lot of fun
As for sex, I thought of the girl, or woman over myself, and let them lead the way. I was happy to have the company of them, sex was a byproduct of a relationship.

I'm not the usual I guess, but don't care what people thought of me then, or now.
Other guys I saw as a bit ape like, and I wanted to get away from the species mindset even though I am one. I guess more evolved than just a brutish spank monkey.

Renees nephews sound like spoiled little mamas boys..

I always ask my niece whether it would help if I whooped her ass before she empties the washing machine... Or collects her crap from the floor..


My sister-in-law always says she is gonna send my niece to me when she hits puberty..

Isolate her from bad influences in the capital area.

No dumbass they aren't spoiled....My sister keeps a pretty tight rein on them....How else do you think she finds all their dirty little secrets?....But adolescent kids being what they are,.... are going to push and test the limits every chance they get.

As for my choice in a husband....I was young at the time, rebellious and somewhat reckless. My judge of character was not what it is today...Maturity and life lessons learned the hard way have taught me a lot about people. Probably more than most my age.

Furthermore; I admit I made my choice partly on looks BUT unlike men, women expect more to come along with the pretty face....Looks dont last forever and there has to be something of substance underneath the veneer....We expect things like fidelity, loyalty, equal partnership, emotional support and respect for the relationship....We expect to get back what we give and that is all anyone can ask for.

Unfortunately not a lot of men can live up to those expectations. You for example are nothing special...you are just a man...no better and probably no worse than the rest.

Sounds like she cleans up after them and finds their dirty little secrets... What kind of an asshole puts dirty clothes with the clean ones.

You might have learned now but there was a time when you were still in school and your father was getting a high blood pressure... The heart disease kind of blood pressure.
What fathers would really like is that their daughters get a boyfriend/husband who doesnt signal that he is gonna fuck her up physically or financially.

But your daughters are gonna make the same choices because the brawny bad boy is just so handsome and exciting... Compared to the alternative.
They are not gonna choose the man/boy who doesnt get their socks rolling on their feet.

People always go after the looks and the way he/she presents himself/herself... You dont get to know the person until later.

We do expect the woman to be nice and loyal... Loyalty is very important because I dont want to end up taking care of somebody elses kid.

Women like you think I´m "settling" when I dont take the sexy little bimbo as a wife..
I wouldnt marry a woman like that because she has nothing going on except for pussy and tits.


I´m not saying that I´m special... Just different when compared to your husband... I dont have the loose character trait..