ISIS gets a taste of Fort Bragg Deltas.

[Dunnottar]

Yes the EU is in complete disarray at this time but so is islam. If islam could focus on just who it wants to exterminate and then precede according to a plan they could possibly achieve their goal. As you have pointed out though, they seem to enjoy killing each other as much as they like killing everyone else and that is a serious drawback and hindrance to their endeavours. As for the rest of us, who can find a problem with muslim on muslim violence? ... except for when it inflicts harm on innocent people. The inherent instability of the islamic death cult will, in the end, permit the EU to develop to the point where it will be the force that will finally eliminate islam as an entity to recon with. There are many things in the way of European dominance at this point, a few of which I have already hinted at but the largest and most immediate ingredient required to bring about the powerful Europe needed is Leadership. All the other factors are already there in embryo but a charismatic leader needed to pull all the strings together to make Europe the unstoppable force that will conquer islam has yet to show his face. He is probably 'out thier' already in the background waiting for the right time but I believe it will happen. Why do I believe this?

Simple ...

... it has all happened before with the very same protagonists.

[cc]

Ya, leaders .... that is all it takes to make good things happen ...... with current leaders things are going downhill steadily .. maybe a good one will come along .. and lead people upward

[extralegs2020]

[post picture of trolling gear here]

Why aren't you posting trolling pictures now? No more troll pics?
Why not? What happened?
Go ahead and post. Why stop now?

[extralegs2020]

Yes the EU is in complete disarray at this time but so is islam. If islam could focus on just who it wants to exterminate and then precede according to a plan they could possibly achieve their goal. As you have pointed out though, they seem to enjoy killing each other as much as they like killing everyone else and that is a serious drawback and hindrance to their endeavours. As for the rest of us, who can find a problem with muslim on muslim violence? ... except for when it inflicts harm on innocent people. The inherent instability of the islamic death cult will, in the end, permit the EU to develop to the point where it will be the force that will finally eliminate islam as an entity to recon with. There are many things in the way of European dominance at this point, a few of which I have already hinted at but the largest and most immediate ingredient required to bring about the powerful Europe needed is Leadership. All the other factors are already there in embryo but a charismatic leader needed to pull all the strings together to make Europe the unstoppable force that will conquer islam has yet to show his face. He is probably 'out thier' already in the background waiting for the right time but I believe it will happen. Why do I believe this?

Simple ...

... it has all happened before with the very same protagonists.

Yes, well, you are about a hundred years behind the times.
Europe's day of glory in the sun is over.
Europe's heyday were the days when Napoleon was striding across the World's stage. That time is long gone. Since 1945, Europe has been done for--unless you include the U.S.S.R. as part of Europe. For that date is when the Russkies and Yanks took over from Europe.
Forget it. Europe is never going to re-achieve its former glory. They are an old, tired, and burnt-out continent. Their time is done. No more superpower status for Europe. Not even collectively, if they all joined as one. Not even then.
What their ancestors did to stop Islam in 732 A.D. (Battle of Tours) and 1683 A.D. (Gates of Vienna)--that can no longer be done. In fact, it is now being undone. And what Islam failed to do then, it is doing now.
The conquest of Europe is proceeding apace.
And they are too weak to stop the assault.
It is like calling the Catholic Church a superpower. At one time, yes, it was. But that was 500 years ago.
The glory days are over.
Bite the dust.

[cc]

Islam's real enemy is itself. Sunni vs Shi'a. Each out to totally destroy and subjugate the other.
Game is On!

This proclaimed successful raid mentioned in the OP was overshadowed by 100x this weekend as Ramadi, the key gateway in Anbar Province and key to going after central and south Iraq

Key Iraqi City of Ramadi Falls to ISIS

The Islamic State group seized control of the city of Ramadi on Sunday, sending Iraqi forces racing out of the city in a major loss despite the support of U.S.-led airstrikes targeting the extremists.

Online video showed Humvees, trucks and other equipment purportedly speeding out of Ramadi, with some soldiers gripping onto their sides. Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi ordered security forces not to abandon their posts across Anbar province, apparently fearing the extremists could capture the entirety of the vast Sunni province that saw intense fighting after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of the country to topple dictator Saddam Hussein.

The deliberate slaughter, not only of the opponent troops but of the innocents continues to accelerate

[Dunnottar]

Yes the EU is in complete disarray at this time but so is islam. If islam could focus on just who it wants to exterminate and then precede according to a plan they could possibly achieve their goal. As you have pointed out though, they seem to enjoy killing each other as much as they like killing everyone else and that is a serious drawback and hindrance to their endeavours. As for the rest of us, who can find a problem with muslim on muslim violence? ... except for when it inflicts harm on innocent people. The inherent instability of the islamic death cult will, in the end, permit the EU to develop to the point where it will be the force that will finally eliminate islam as an entity to recon with. There are many things in the way of European dominance at this point, a few of which I have already hinted at but the largest and most immediate ingredient required to bring about the powerful Europe needed is Leadership. All the other factors are already there in embryo but a charismatic leader needed to pull all the strings together to make Europe the unstoppable force that will conquer islam has yet to show his face. He is probably 'out thier' already in the background waiting for the right time but I believe it will happen. Why do I believe this?

Simple ...

... it has all happened before with the very same protagonists.

Yes, well, you are about a hundred years behind the times.
Europe's day of glory in the sun is over.
Europe's heyday were the days when Napoleon was striding across the World's stage. That time is long gone. Since 1945, Europe has been done for--unless you include the U.S.S.R. as part of Europe. For that date is when the Russkies and Yanks took over from Europe.
Forget it. Europe is never going to re-achieve its former glory. They are an old, tired, and burnt-out continent. Their time is done. No more superpower status for Europe. Not even collectively, if they all joined as one. Not even then.
What their ancestors did to stop Islam in 732 A.D. (Battle of Tours) and 1683 A.D. (Gates of Vienna)--that can no longer be done. In fact, it is now being undone. And what Islam failed to do then, it is doing now.
The conquest of Europe is proceeding apace.
And they are too weak to stop the assault.
It is like calling the Catholic Church a superpower. At one time, yes, it was. But that was 500 years ago.
The glory days are over.
Bite the dust.

Ha ha ha ... the worst mistake that islam ever made (and there are sooo many of them) was/is to underestimate Europe. You live by the sword and you also die by the sword. Yes I agree that America is no longer a major force in the world today ... too happy to let Europe handle its own affairs as opposed to being their first line of defence as once promised. It is obvious how far Europe has advanced since the end of WW2, to the point, in fact, where Germany is once again the driving power behind its resurgence. The most basic failure of islam is to see and understand that, although islam's entire purpose is death and destruction for others, it is very soon time for it to pay the price for its love of death.

What you falsely believe matters very little and is of no concern. The evil is islam will soon end, just not soon enough.

[extralegs2020]

... apparently happening every day. ISIS is another obama deception. even the name sounds phony ...

No, the name is not phony: The name is "magickal". This was the most famous and reverered of all the ancient goddesses, an AEgyptian one. She was, and still is, the patron goddess of magick.

... like i say, phony. it's from some old fairy tale (unless you actually believe goddesses existed). lol ...

... anyway, i think it was derived from an old marvel comics superhero which is more likely considering marvel is american ...

ISIS stands for: "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria".
Just so you know.

[the shark hunter]

No, the name is not phony: The name is "magickal". This was the most famous and reverered of all the ancient goddesses, an AEgyptian one. She was, and still is, the patron goddess of magick.

... like i say, phony. it's from some old fairy tale (unless you actually believe goddesses existed). lol ...

... anyway, i think it was derived from an old marvel comics superhero which is more likely considering marvel is american ...

ISIS stands for: "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria".
Just so you know.

... and ISIL stands for?

[extralegs2020]

ISIL is Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

[the shark hunter]

ISIL is Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

... why are these two names being used interchangeably by the news media?

[extralegs2020]

Because they mean different things. One is more politically charged than the other. Levant means a wide area, which, I believe, includes the State of Israel.

[extralegs2020]

[the shark hunter]

Because they mean different things. One is more politically charged than the other. Levant means a wide area, which, I believe, includes the State of Israel.

... i see you don't have an answer for the question ...

... what i'm getting from the news media is that they both mean the same thing and can be used in place of each other ...

[extralegs2020]

Yes they can.
But one is more political.
As you can see, ISIS / ISIL wants the whole of the Levant, and Syria, as well as Iraq.
And Israel.

[extralegs2020]

And they might just get it, too.
They just might.

[Odinson]

"give money and weapons to the most aggressive and power hungry in any society and the same will happen."

Every single western garrison has more firepower than these kittens yahoos...

Our commanders are not like some animals who have promoted themselves.

[Odinson]

... apparently happening every day. ISIS is another obama deception. even the name sounds phony ...

They just gave them a hip headline name.. Like the egyptian goddess.

ISIS is very aggressive and USA is dropping weapons to the civvies who oppose ISIS..

Sometimes the weapons get in the wrong hands.

Didn't even read your post before I posted mine above.
Quite right, Odie. A hip headline name; just like the AEgyptian goddess!

Sells more magazines..

[Odinson]

Its funny how kittens and other non-europeans brag about getting stronger and european domination is no longer..

Funny.. Since european nations could wipe out every single living soul in muddle-east in one night.

We are tolerant now for some reason.

[cc]

If we could only figure out what that reason is

[extralegs2020]

If we could only figure out what that reason is

O! That's easy. An easy answer.
They are tolerant because they have no more power. They don't have the power to be INtolerant.
Not any more, they don't.
There is a gross, and unbelievably shocking, history of racism coming from Europe. You ought to watch some documentaries on that subject. It will shock the hell out of you, finding out about the atrocities carried out by them.
Here is one from the BBC:
[video][/video]
Unbelievable. Absolutely, truly unbelievable.
Unreal.

[extralegs2020]

To get off topic for just a moment, look at Europe. Say, France. France has a lot of social problems. There have been riots in the streets of Paris and other cities. So, who's rioting? Well, obviously, the immigrants.
But it is very unnatural and abnormal for immigrants to riot. The natural and normal tendency is for immigrants to be full of gratitude, and beholden to the mother country, to the one that let them in so that they could lead a better life. They make better citizens than the natives, because they have come from some place worse. They do not take the new land for granted.
If someone lets you into their home as an invited guest, you are likely to praise and honour them. But THESE migrants have rioted.
It can mean only one thing: They are alienated and angry about the gross social injustice and racism and discrimination they feel in France. They are pushed into ghettos and marginalized as second class citizens. It is a profound emotional insult. So they become 'radicalized'.
Now, notice that the migrants to the U.S.A. do NOT riot. Why? because they get a fair deal, a fair break (mostly). America welcomes them with open arms. And they succeed. They live the good life. There is no need for them to get 'radicalized'.
The people who riot in the States are the blacks. That's because it is the blacks who get the worst of it, not the migrants. The blacks form the underbelly of American society.

[extralegs2020]

It also occurred to me, that these Euro countries that built empires, and launched their colonial enterprises, were not very different from, and were in fact quite similar to, (in some respects), "Organized Crime", except that they were MUCH, MUCH WORSE!!!!
These colonial efforts were actually criminal enterprises--and very murderous ones at that. They went into those countries to plunder the native populations, to subjugate, to enslave, to bleed those countries 'White'.
But because it was all done 'collectively', it was justified. If a single individual did it, it would be a crime of the first magnitude. But because the entire nation went into this madness, it was made 'legal' and 'right', and 'good'.
And that's where the similarity to "Organized Crime" comes in. It was organized plunder.
But because it was done in the name of 'a higher civilization', bringing enlightenment and other good things to the savages, barbarians, inferiors, sub-humans, slaves, &c., that made it all proper, right, and good.
And we are still enduring the effects of these acts.
Racism is a very serious problem, World-wide. Very serious indeed.
There will be hell to pay!
UP, ISIS!
DOWN, EUROPE!

[Dunnottar]

It also occurred to me, that these Euro countries that built empires, and launched their colonial enterprises, were not very different from, and were in fact quite similar to, (in some respects), "Organized Crime", except that they were MUCH, MUCH WORSE!!!!
These colonial efforts were actually criminal enterprises--and very murderous ones at that. They went into those countries to plunder the native populations, to subjugate, to enslave, to bleed those countries 'White'.
But because it was all done 'collectively', it was justified. If a single individual did it, it would be a crime of the first magnitude. But because the entire nation went into this madness, it was made 'legal' and 'right', and 'good'.
And that's where the similarity to "Organized Crime" comes in. It was organized plunder.
But because it was done in the name of 'a higher civilization', bringing enlightenment and other good things to the savages, barbarians, inferiors, sub-humans, slaves, &c., that made it all proper, right, and good.
And we are still enduring the effects of these acts.
Racism is a very serious problem, World-wide. Very serious indeed.
There will be hell to pay!
UP, ISIS!
DOWN, EUROPE!

Blah blah blah ... none of your backward mental meanderings and attempts at rewriting history amount to anything more than a hill of beans. You can equate European empire building to criminal empires if you like ,,, what difference will it make when islam is stamped out of existence by the NEXT European empire.

isis is islam / islam is isis

[evs]

Two can play that game, leggy - Up! Europe!:)

[Odinson]

Moslims armies are beyond weak.. Crumble into dust when a western army arrives.

The camel humpers get one AK-47 and they think they can take on the world..

Just glass the place.

[Lochdubh]

ISIL is Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

... why are these two names being used interchangeably by the news media?

I prefer to call it what it is....the Caliphate.

[Lochdubh]

If we could only figure out what that reason is

O! That's easy. An easy answer.
They are tolerant because they have no more power. They don't have the power to be INtolerant.
Not any more, they don't.
There is a gross, and unbelievably shocking, history of racism coming from Europe. You ought to watch some documentaries on that subject. It will shock the hell out of you, finding out about the atrocities carried out by them.
Here is one from the BBC:
[video][/video]
Unbelievable. Absolutely, truly unbelievable.
Unreal.

Ain't Islam a religion rather than a race?

[extralegs2020]

Of course Islam is a religion not a race.
But that is exactly what makes it so perfect as an effective antidote to racism. It is MUCH LARGER than any racial issue. Islam is 'non-discriminatory'. Euros are invited to it just as much as Africans or Jews. It includes the whole of humanity, the whole human race.
There are more ethnic varieties within the fold of Islam than there have ever been in any political entity in history. Not one other has been so diverse.
But within it are the principles of social justice. That excludes racism and makes it an enemy of such ideologies. It teaches equality of all races.
Having a common cause, and making common cause with all people, transcends all racial boundaries. Race becomes a non-issue; but social justice is very much 'to the point'.
There is a basis for UNION and UNITY of all believers under Islam.
And I really do mean "ALL".

[cc]

ISIL is Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

... why are these two names being used interchangeably by the news media?

I prefer to call it what it is....the Caliphate.

Yes. What it calls itself - IS = Islamic state ... their name they chose for their Caliphate. Either term (IS or The Kalipha / Caliphate) is honest to what they call it

All other designations are dishonest and self-servingly derived from the past ..... designed to detract from what it really is and from the fact that it is islam being true islam

[extralegs2020]

... why are these two names being used interchangeably by the news media?

I prefer to call it what it is....the Caliphate.

Yes. What it calls itself - IS = Islamic state ... their name they chose for their Caliphate. Either term is honest to what they call it

All other designations are dishonest and self-servingly derived from the past

Note that Loch and CC are both right.
I completely agree.
It's the Caliphate.
By the way, I don't believe the Shia ever had a Caliphate. If I am right, the Caliph is a 'Sunni' thing.
May be that's why they don't get along--one reason.