HK

[asal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-174QDV3ns

[asal]

I hope the people win, I just don't think they will.

[Lochdubh]

The 5 Star china government is giving time for the anger of "average' Hongers to wax and eventually demand the Government restore order.

[9 incher/160 IQ]

I hear shen Li smells of mothballs and tiger balm.

[Жekko]

i thought this thread was going to be about heckler and koch

[Жekko]

I hope the people win, I just don't think they will.

they can’t

[asal]

I hope the people win, I just don't think they will.

they can’t

yes, true.

I'll have to read up on what Taiwan's situation is (Republic of China).

[Жekko]

as i watch this unfold

it is more like watching a film about the titanic

than an actual real time human event


if you want taiwan to remain independent

you had better pray that the yanks change their government next year

[Berry Sweet]

What are they protesting about?

[Жekko]

What are they protesting about?

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

[evs]

I am rooting for the big bad Chinese govt. This is nothing but Ukraine all over again.

[evs]

The prototype for this approach (protest model) was the October 2000 coup in Serbia, which US diplomats and the cheerleader media then invoked in subsequent cases.

West's first color revolution victim
In the “best case” scenario, such as Serbia, the immediate body count is low but the country’s democratic institutions are irreparably damaged and corrupted by this sort of fraud and manipulation. Ukraine, Syria, or Libya are what the worst-case scenario looks like: civil war or anarchy, with tens of thousands of deaths.

Neither of which matters to the US diplomats, media or politicians, though. They declare it a “victory for democracy” and move on to the next target, to replay the scenario all over again.

By Nebojsa Malic

Nebojsa Malic is a Serbian-American journalist and political commentator, working at RT since 2015

[Berry Sweet]

What are they protesting about?

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

[evs]

I was there. In year 2000. I know exactly what the article is talking about.

[evs]

What are they protesting about?

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

You are actually not missing out on much bers. I read my news too.

[Berry Sweet]

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

You are actually not missing out on much bers. I read my news too.

I tried to listen but all I can hear is students and police. Evetything else doesnt make sense and the CC isnt working properly for me on this video.

[Жekko]

What are they protesting about?

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

that’s fair

sorry

[Жekko]

I was there. In year 2000. I know exactly what the article is talking about.

no doubt

point taken

but not everything is serbia redux


taiwan and hong kong are, however, the “chickens coming home to roost”

one does have to concede that


china reversing the previous imperialism

but to what end?


separate proposition:

the EU was to blame for what happened in SFRJ

specifically the germans

thoughts?

[Berry Sweet]

jesus, woman

at least watch the national every now and then

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

that’s fair

sorry

No worries. People tend to forget about my hearing and my recent eye surgery which makes me text really badly sometimes. Im due for the second surgery soon, so you will have to bear with me until my eyes heal and can fully function clearly. Today is a good day...but coming soon will be a disaster...next month.

[Жekko]

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

You are actually not missing out on much bers. I read my news too.

I tried to listen but all I can hear is students and police. Evetything else doesnt make sense and the CC isnt working properly for me on this video.

summary:

since brits left hong kong, they have been able to run their own affairs in most things without interference from PRC

now PRC wants to reassert control about 20 years before they agreed they would

specifically in the area of criminal prosecution

PRC wants the right to extradite criminals to their jurisdiction

but HK fears that this might also be applied by PRC to perceived “political criminals” (i.e. activists)


this was sparked by an alleged murderer escaping from taiwan to HK

no extradition treaty exists between HK and Taiwan

but of course

it is never just about any one case when it comes to HK and PRC

every issue is frought with the larger issue of HK’s time-dated independence

which is set to expire in 2047 anyway


so there you go

[evs]

Without the US money financing Otpor, Germany alone wouldn’t stand a chance.

I really like max blumenthal blog. I highly recommend it.

Otpor was supported by the National Endowment for Democracy, USAID, and Sharp’s Albert Einstein Institute. Sinisa Sikman, one of Otpor’s main trainers, once said the group even received direct CIA funding.

According to a leaked email from a Stratfor staffer, after running Milosevic out of power, “the kids who ran OTPOR grew up, got suits and designed CANVAS… or in other words a ‘export-a-revolution’ group that sowed the seeds for a NUMBER of color revolutions. They are still hooked into U.S. funding and basically go around the world trying to topple dictators and autocratic governments (ones that U.S. does not like .”

[mimi]

I generally READ the news because of my hearing, watching the video doesnt help, which is why I asked.

that’s fair

sorry

No worries. People tend to forget about my hearing and my recent eye surgery which makes me text really badly sometimes. Im due for the second surgery soon, so you will have to bear with me until my eyes heal and can fully function clearly. Today is a good day...but coming soon will be a disaster...next month.

What did you have done to your eyes, Berry ?

[Berry Sweet]

that’s fair

sorry

No worries. People tend to forget about my hearing and my recent eye surgery which makes me text really badly sometimes. Im due for the second surgery soon, so you will have to bear with me until my eyes heal and can fully function clearly. Today is a good day...but coming soon will be a disaster...next month.

What did you have done to your eyes, Berry ?

It was just a cateract surgery. But the lense is different now. The depth of field is different in each eye which makes lokking up close at the key pad very difficult. Im getting the other eye done next month. I dont really need glasses amymoe so thats a bonus...but I think i will get a pair 6 months after the 2nd surgery just to help read better.

[mimi]

Ya...depth perception is totally screwed up when each eye is seeing differently. =(

[Berry Sweet]

I have a hard time distinguishing where the key really is on the pad...i press the key next to it, unless I close one eye, which gets annoying.

[asal]

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/19/p ... worldwide/

[asal]

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/19/h ... ming-odds/

Hong Kong people can foresee the worst-case scenario: one day the curtain will fall and we will be completely blanketed by the authoritarianism of the CCP. The great firewall will cut the internet and people will no longer have access to the world, or the world to us. Anyone telling an inconvenient story will be taken into detention and lost within the system of no recourse.

It seems more and more likely and Hong Kong people are increasingly aware of it. This Resistance is no longer about fighting the extradition bill, or for the Five Demands. What it is now, is an all-encompassing protest movement against simply not just encroachment but becoming fully a part of China. It is making people desperate, it’s pushing people to violence, as in many other moments in history....

...So for now, Hong Kong is still open. We’re still in the front page news. The world can watch.

This may not be our final stand, but it could be our last. So let the record show, may it be written in history books, and for us to tell our children, that in 2019 Hong Kong people made a stand, fought a gallant battle for our own freedoms in the face of unspeakable sacrifice and overwhelming odds.

[Mad Serb]

HK will be just one of many highly industrialized cities. Not a league of its own

[Lochdubh]

No worries. People tend to forget about my hearing and my recent eye surgery which makes me text really badly sometimes. Im due for the second surgery soon, so you will have to bear with me until my eyes heal and can fully function clearly. Today is a good day...but coming soon will be a disaster...next month.

What did you have done to your eyes, Berry ?

It was just a cateract surgery. But the lense is different now. The depth of field is different in each eye which makes lokking up close at the key pad very difficult. Im getting the other eye done next month. I dont really need glasses amymoe so thats a bonus...but I think i will get a pair 6 months after the 2nd surgery just to help read better.

You're a tuff chick, Ber, hope you heal fully and quickly.

[asal]

https://www.scmp.com/sport/hong-kong/ar ... eople-amid

MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong speaks out in support of Hong Kong people amid anti-government protests

Controversial Chinese fighter suspects a smear campaign against the city
Users of an online Hong Kong forum say they would welcome ‘Mad Dog’Chinese MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong at his Beijing gym.



Controversial Chinese MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong has sent a message of solidarity with Hong Kong’s anti-government protesters, but said he hoped the city’s social unity would not suffer lasting damage from tensions arising from recent developments.

In online posts on social media platforms Sina Weibo and YouTube, Xu doubted whether mainland Chinese media reports on the protests had presented a clear picture of what was happening and many citizens seemed to believe the unrest was the work of gangsters and thugs, leading to some strong anti-Hong Kong sentiment on the mainland.