"The story of Tunnel 29" - This is Amazing - Detailed Berlin Wall Tunneling & Human Will and Courage

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"The story of Tunnel 29" - This is Amazing - Detailed Berlin Wall Tunneling & Human Will and Courage

Unread post by cc » 03 Nov 2019, 17:15

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Od4dL9Lip2/tunnel_29

It is large - but if interested, it is divided into reasonable length sections / stages, yet is presented continuously - Kudos to researchers, programmers of this presentation and especially to all actual brave participants

Story is put together in a great easy to keep your place format - including separate section linked tabs at top

In 1961, Joachim Rudolph escaped from one of the world’s most brutal dictatorships. A few months later, he began tunnelling his way back in. Why?

The Tunnel
It all began with a knock at the door. Joachim, a 22-year-old engineering student, was in his room at university in West Berlin. He had been studying there for a few months, spending his free time taking photographs, or going to jazz nights.

At his door were two Italian students he knew in passing who had come to ask for his help. They needed to get some friends out of East Berlin and they wanted to do this by digging a tunnel.

This was October 1961, just two months after the Berlin Wall had gone up. It was built by the East German government to stop the flood of people leaving the communist dictatorship for a better life in the West. But what was so extraordinary about it was the speed with which it had been built.

Tens of thousands of East German soldiers had gone into the streets of East Berlin in the dead of night, stringing barbed wire from posts and making concrete barricades. By the next morning, this barrier cut through the whole city, snaking through parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and squares.

Although the wall had been hastily put together (and wasn’t as tall or as heavily guarded as it would later become) it changed the city overnight.

When people woke up on 13 August 1961, they suddenly found themselves on one side of it. Wives were cut off from their husbands, brothers from their sisters. There were even stories of newborn babies in the West now separated from their mothers.

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First Tunnel When Flooding Almost Stopped Them
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SECOND TUNNEL - YES, he went back into East Berlin again to get more people out
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Unread post by mimi » 03 Nov 2019, 17:56

Holy crap, cc !

That had me in tears throughout. Seriously interesting post. A 'must read'.



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Unread post by cc » 03 Nov 2019, 18:21

Tunnel 57, Second go by basically same people 3 years later .. a tunnel under the Berlin Wall that on the third and fourth October 1964 was the location of a mass escape by 57 East Berlin citizens.


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Unread post by mimi » 03 Nov 2019, 19:19

I found it mind boggling to think that people needed to go to such measures for freedom, at such a late date in history.

I don't know for sure....but I think evs is the only one I know of here, that has come close (or maybe closer) to this kind of insanity.
I just can't fathom life like that. =(



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Unread post by cc » 03 Nov 2019, 19:35

Control was total ,, Stasi was vicious and efficient ... spying on everyone and enforcement also - East Berliners lived a 1984 family spied on family etc. ...

socialism full bore for Russia and all it's satellites, about the same as East Berlin.. .100s of millions of subjects .. many countries


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Unread post by mimi » 03 Nov 2019, 19:47

It's shocking in its own right....but it's double shocking how 'current' this kind of this was going on.
Rips my guts up. =((((



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Unread post by cc » 03 Nov 2019, 19:59

It's not all history. Many are "today"

There are still many countries as bad today .... most islamic countries .. and many others ... Venezuela,.. several African countries .. etc.

I guess I just accept that the wold has been very evil for millenniums .. a crappy existence for most all people for most of human history .. and for so many today .. As for future, it's not looking good for the very people who now have it fairly good .. seems a great many are willingly trying to take us all back to "1984" / Staci / be what govt tells you to be type society


On a brighter note, as for the OP subject, I so respect the courage and selflessness of those helping others escape horrible conditions


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Unread post by mimi » 03 Nov 2019, 20:32

On a brighter note, as for the OP subject, I so respect the courage and selflessness of those helping others escape horrible conditions
Me too.
It was a commitment way beyond saying "I like to help". Months and months of hard physical labour to make it happen...and trying again and again upon failure...not to mention the potential consequences of the endeavor. Admirable to say the least.



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Food for thought when you think about the Buffoons idiotic wall


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Unread post by cc » 04 Nov 2019, 08:27

Still obsessed

Still possessed

Still unable to stop himself from derailing into his obsession

Still "Village Idiot"


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Unread post by J0E » 04 Nov 2019, 10:56

The Berlin Wall & the existence of East Germany was the price Germany paid for losing World War II.

In a way, the West was guilty of enabling the Soviet Union to implement its satellite police state. The major powers dismantled/destroyed the East Prussian state which allowed the USSR to create East Germany in its place.



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Unread post by Mad Serb » 04 Nov 2019, 11:09

J0E wrote:
04 Nov 2019, 10:56
The Berlin Wall & the existence of East Germany was the price Germany paid for losing World War II.
Many other eastern Euro countries paid the same price and did not start the war



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Unread post by Irina » 04 Nov 2019, 12:27

There is a price to it for sure. I personally am affected by ostalgie.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. But mostly it was far better than what some are portraying.


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Unread post by Mad Serb » 04 Nov 2019, 12:30

It was also worse then what some are portraying.
hope those days (when commies attempted to rule the world) never come back



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J0E wrote:
04 Nov 2019, 10:56
The Berlin Wall & the existence of East Germany was the price Germany paid for losing World War II.

In a way, the West was guilty of enabling the Soviet Union to implement its satellite police state. The major powers dismantled/destroyed the East Prussian state which allowed the USSR to create East Germany in its place.
OP Topic-irrelevant derail - typical Jojo crap


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Unread post by Seamajor » 04 Nov 2019, 14:38

cc wrote:
04 Nov 2019, 08:27
Still obsessed

Still possessed

Still unable to stop himself from derailing into his obsession

Still "Village Idiot"
Naw. Only commenting on the fact that walls don’t work, and thanks for proving my point.


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