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Soon is not a Nominalist.


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I realize that my paper is still incomplete. I have this to add to it:

The claims of the empiricists in reference to synthetic a priori knowledge is that such propositions can be one of three things:
(a.) They are simply empirical propositions that have been mistaken for something else. That is, God and angels are made of physical substances that we can see.
OR:
(b.) They are analytical a priori propositions, also mistaken for another thing. That is, they are tautologies.
OR:
(c.) They are quite simply nonsense, and entirely meaningless—in which case we are talking about non-existent things, like unicorns and such.


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EL

Everyone can google. It's 2019


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You won't find this info on Google.


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Then it's rubbish


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You are talking rubbish.


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extralegs2014 wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 10:10 I realize that my paper is still incomplete. I have this to add to it:

The claims of the empiricists in reference to synthetic a priori knowledge is that such propositions can be one of three things:
(a.) They are simply empirical propositions that have been mistaken for something else. That is, God and angels are made of physical substances that we can see.
OR:
(b.) They are analytical a priori propositions, also mistaken for another thing. That is, they are tautologies.
OR:
(c.) They are quite simply nonsense, and entirely meaningless—in which case we are talking about non-existent things, like unicorns and such.
Utter bacon bits!

Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?

I find myself more distressed by your mauling of philosophy than by your mangling of religion.


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Claim (C.) is not nonsense. That's exactly what empiricists claim.
Claim (A.) is also, as far as I know, not nonsense. Empiricists claim that, too. For example, many people "claim" to have seen God, seen angels, heard voices, smelled daemons, &c., &c., &c. Well, if you can see and hear them then they must be tangible.
Claim (B.) is also true. People get these 'categories' muddled up.

PLEASE PLEASE, Blurta, don't try too hard to be clever. You are trying to catch me out but it is not working, because I know my stuff.
Blurt wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 22:07
extralegs2014 wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 10:10 I realize that my paper is still incomplete. I have this to add to it:

The claims of the empiricists in reference to synthetic a priori knowledge is that such propositions can be one of three things:
(a.) They are simply empirical propositions that have been mistaken for something else. That is, God and angels are made of physical substances that we can see.
OR:
(b.) They are analytical a priori propositions, also mistaken for another thing. That is, they are tautologies.
OR:
(c.) They are quite simply nonsense, and entirely meaningless—in which case we are talking about non-existent things, like unicorns and such.
Utter bacon bits!

Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?

I find myself more distressed by your mauling of philosophy than by your mangling of religion.


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I think one thing that is obvious that you excel at, leggs...and that's that you have super-human talent when it comes to balance.
Anyone who can strut around with their chest stuck out so far in front of them, and not fall over, is truly talented. Other than that...there's not much else that I've seen.

Why don't you take it down a few notches, and just communicate on a 'normal' level. "Super Leggs" just isn't working. :(


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extralegs2014 wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 22:14 Claim (C.) is not nonsense. That's exactly what empiricists claim.
Claim (A.) is also, as far as I know, not nonsense. Empiricists claim that, too. For example, many people "claim" to have seen God, seen angels, heard voices, smelled daemons, &c., &c., &c. Well, if you can see and hear them then they must be tangible.
Claim (B.) is also true. People get these 'categories' muddled up.

PLEASE PLEASE, Blurta, don't try too hard to be clever. You are trying to catch me out but it is not working, because I know my stuff.
Blurt wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 22:07
extralegs2014 wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 10:10 I realize that my paper is still incomplete. I have this to add to it:

The claims of the empiricists in reference to synthetic a priori knowledge is that such propositions can be one of three things:
(a.) They are simply empirical propositions that have been mistaken for something else. That is, God and angels are made of physical substances that we can see.
OR:
(b.) They are analytical a priori propositions, also mistaken for another thing. That is, they are tautologies.
OR:
(c.) They are quite simply nonsense, and entirely meaningless—in which case we are talking about non-existent things, like unicorns and such.
Utter bacon bits!

Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?

I find myself more distressed by your mauling of philosophy than by your mangling of religion.
Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?


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Demons and gods and unicorns are the concerns of Rationalists, not Empiricists. Empiricists truck in empirical evidence, Rationalists with the contents of their own mind.

When Rationalist claims stumble into the real world, they often falter and fall. Just ask Descartes, the father of both modern Rationalism and Ontological Dualism, just how, exactly, the mind (a spiritual, non-physical "substance") interacts with, and impels, the body (a physical substance). He couldn't figure it out. And neither can you. Why? Because any answer would be senseless and contrived. Not to mention illogical. Descartes went so far as to postulate a pivotal role for the pituitary gland in this process, but couldn't, for the life of him, explain the nature of the connection.

You are a Rationalist through and through, my friend. As are most people who cling to the vestiges of supernatural fairy tales as a source of motive power and will.


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Blurt wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 08:45 Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?

This is stupidity. Another logical fallacy by someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
In brief, another 'pseudo-intellectual'--who is trying to be too clever.
Once we have defined empiricist and other terms, we don't need to go around searching for single or multiple 'examples' of people making such claims.
The terms are now defined. We may proceed from there. I am NOT going to do a world-wide search for empirical claims. I don't need to.
But then, some of want to appear much smarter than we actually are. They try to 'trip me up'. But instead, they trip only themselves.
Sorry Lady. It isn't working; and nor WILL it work in the future.


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White flag duly noted.


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extralegs2014 wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 10:10 The claims of the empiricists in reference to synthetic a priori knowledge is that such propositions can be one of three things...
extralegs2014 wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 09:45
Blurt wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 08:45 Can you provide even a single example of any empiricist making such a claim?

...we don't need to go around searching for single or multiple 'examples' of people making such claims.
Spoken like a true Rationalist. No evidence required.


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Blurt wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 10:38 White flag duly noted.

Let's get a clear perspective:
The white flag of surrender is yours.
The other flag of victory is mine.


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On what evidence?


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The evidence is clear:
Philosophy deals very largely, if not exclusively, with arguments. You have to make your case. You have to prove your case. Whoever has the best arguments, wins. Your arguments have to stand up to scrutiny.
Yours don't.
Mine do.


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Prove that your arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Provide just one single example of an Empiricist making Rationalist claims.

I'll wait.


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extralegs2014 wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 20:11 The question in this thread title is redundant because I already got a go-ahead--from Blurt.
And now for something highly creative.
In five (5) parts. Here goes:
Part One:

“EPISTEMOLOGY:”

“Epistemology may be defined as the theory of knowledge, or how something can be demonstrated to be true.
The branch of Philosophy called Epistemology teaches us that every statement, or claim, or proposition, can be fitted into one of three categories. It HAS to be in one of three. Of the first two of these categories, there is no debate or argument, and all Philosophers are agreed upon them. However, it is the third category of statements about which there is a raging debate, and which has proved itself to be problematical.
There are two camps that divide the Epistemologists. They are the empiricists and the rationalists.
The three categories of statements, claims or propositions are:
(1.) Empirical statements. Such statements can be verified or falsified by a reference to observation by human senses, and these are the propositions of Science.
(2.) Analytical A Priori claims. Such claims need no verification, and these are the propositions of Mathematics.
And
(3.) Synthetic A Priori propositions. Such propositions cannot be verified or falsified through reference to the senses. These are the statements of Religion and Spirituality. They deal with the intangibles.
These terms: empiricist, rationalist, and a priori will be fully explained, and the reasons for this terminology will soon be made clear.
Post it at blurtsome.


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Blurt wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 10:37 Prove that your arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Provide just one single example of an Empiricist making Rationalist claims.

I'll wait.

I can't argue with stupidity.
(That is, the argument is stupid, not the person making it. This is not an ad hominem attack.)


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Again, surrender duly noted.


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extralegs2014 wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 17:25
Blurt wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 10:37 Prove that your arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Provide just one single example of an Empiricist making Rationalist claims.

I'll wait.

I can't argue with stupidity.
(That is, the argument is stupid, not the person making it. This is not an ad hominem attack.)
I like how precise you are in your expression.


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if only he were a little more precise in matters of importance to his mental health.


what is that? and how do i make the rest of my life about it.
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He is picking his battles.


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Yes, but you are all brain-dead!


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Aw. We are all something legy.


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MY BRAIN IS NOT DEAD.....It's only resting. :D


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extralegs2014 wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 17:25
Blurt wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 10:37 Prove that your arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Provide just one single example of an Empiricist making Rationalist claims.

I'll wait.

I can't argue with stupidity.
(That is, the argument is stupid, not the person making it. This is not an ad hominem attack.)
Then be a true Philosopher and help me out, here, for I'm a lover of wisdom as much as, if not more so than, you are; explain to me why you think my argument is stupid.


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I wonder what makes people think 'philosophers' are the be-all end-all. What are their credentials ? :D
Crazy people philosophize all the time. Even Socrates was considered to be crazy. Nietzsche as well.
So...they say a few things that resonate with people...and all of a sudden...we are supposed to take their word as pearls of wisdom?

Like everyone else....sometimes they see the light...and sometimes they don't.
Take what you need and leave the rest.


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Blurt wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 20:43
extralegs2014 wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 17:25
Blurt wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 10:37 Prove that your arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Provide just one single example of an Empiricist making Rationalist claims.

I'll wait.

I can't argue with stupidity.
(That is, the argument is stupid, not the person making it. This is not an ad hominem attack.)
Then be a true Philosopher and help me out, here, for I'm a lover of wisdom as much as, if not more so than, you are; explain to me why you think my argument is stupid.

Empiricists can't make rationalist claims. If you understood anything I said, you would know that.
So why are you asking stupid questions??!!


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