2023 the last "true" musclecars IMO

[weebles]

The sound of beeing free...from the Big 3

[soon]

ford for sure since they claim their getting out the car business and making only suvs and trucks. seriously, what the hell is an e-mustang?

personally i'm waiting for the new e-barracuda. (just kidding, sorta)

[asal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-bD372v5s

[weebles]

Playing to lose geared to win.

[weebles]

7.0L V-8 with a 6-speed RWD for under $30K exists

[soon]

umm, okay. in the future dodge will charge a (monthly fee?) fee to level-up your electric muscle car. sounds like they throttle the power and you can pay to level-up later on. car manufacturers are going the games as a service model route.

The entry-level Charger 340 gets a 400-volt propulsion system and 455 horsepower, while the midrange 440 (the electric Scat Pack, if you will) boasts 590 horsepower. Both models can receive over-the-air horsepower bumps through Dodge Direct Connection, and a multi-speed transmission is promised.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4355 ... ture-cars/

[weebles]

I dislike electric cars with a passion for some reason.

[weebles]

When they stare targeting "sports" cars to people of my generation you know you are middle aged.

[soon]

how about the GR corolla. they call it the dodge challenger of hot hatches.

[GranpaP]

IMO, there are two distinct muscle car periods: one is an era when cars were built to race, and the other an era when cars are built to please the consumer; two distinct waves... 1964-1974 and 2008-present.

The term 'muscle car' became popular in the eighties when American consumers realized only low-powered K-cars were currently being built in America.
The 1974 Pontiac Trans-Am 455 SD is known as the last true muscle car.
1970 is the peak year for muscle cars with 1971 being the beginning of the end with the announcement that all vehicles built must have smog/emission control devices.
The death of the 70s muscle can be traced to extremely high automobile insurance premiums for any vehicle that exceeded a pre-determined weight-to-power ratio. By 1972, installing large engines in small car bodies was no longer a popular idea.
Additionally, the early 1970s fuel embargo combined with the surge of economical Japanese vehicles being sold in the US all contributed to the death of the first wave muscle car.
These 1960s and early 1970s muscle cars weren't created for the public, but were engineered for Nascar races; homologation rules set-up by Nascar required auto manufacturers to sell at least five hundred of their vehicles to the public before their cars could be registered for races.
Translation: the public could order and purchase a Nascar racer at their local car dealership.

The second muscle car wave started in 2009-2010, and the current popularity of the high-hp engine emerged from the need to satisfy baby boomers who rode-in or owned 'first wave' cars while in their teens.

The third wave muscle car will be electric. see article above. Thanks sooners.

[weebles]

IMO, there are two distinct muscle car periods: one is an era when cars were built to race, and the other an era when cars are built to please the consumer; two distinct waves... 1964-1974 and 2008-present.

The term 'muscle car' became popular in the eighties when American consumers realized only K-cars were being built.
The 1974 Pontiac Trans-Am 455 SD is known as the last true muscle car.
1970 is the peak year for muscle cars with 1971 being the beginning of the end.
The death of the 70s muscle can be traced to extremely high automobile insurance premiums for any vehicle that exceeded a pre-determined weight-to-power ratio. Installing large engines in small car bodies was no longer a popular idea.
Additionally, the early 1970s fuel embargo combined with the surge of economical Japanese vehicles being sold in the US all contributed to the death of the first wave muscle car.
These 1960s and early 1970s muscle cars weren't created for the public, but were engineered for Nascar races; homologation rules set-up by Nascar required auto manufacturers to sell at least five hundred of their vehicles to the public before their cars could be registered for races.
Translation: the public could purchase a Nascar racer at their local car dealership.

The second muscle car wave started in 2009-2010, and the current popularity of the high-hp engine emerged from the need to satisfy baby boomers who rode-in or owned 'first wave' cars while in their teens.

The third wave muscle car will be electric. see article above. Thanks sooners.

IMO, there are two distinct muscle car periods: one is an era when cars were built to race, and the other an era when cars are built to please the consumer; two distinct waves... 1964-1974 and 2008-present.

The term 'muscle car' became popular in the eighties when American consumers realized only K-cars were being built.
The 1974 Pontiac Trans-Am 455 SD is known as the last true muscle car.
1970 is the peak year for muscle cars with 1971 being the beginning of the end.
The death of the 70s muscle can be traced to extremely high automobile insurance premiums for any vehicle that exceeded a pre-determined weight-to-power ratio. Installing large engines in small car bodies was no longer a popular idea.
Additionally, the early 1970s fuel embargo combined with the surge of economical Japanese vehicles being sold in the US all contributed to the death of the first wave muscle car.
These 1960s and early 1970s muscle cars weren't created for the public, but were engineered for Nascar races; homologation rules set-up by Nascar required auto manufacturers to sell at least five hundred of their vehicles to the public before their cars could be registered for races.
Translation: the public could purchase a Nascar racer at their local car dealership.

The second muscle car wave started in 2009-2010, and the current popularity of the high-hp engine emerged from the need to satisfy baby boomers who rode-in or owned 'first wave' cars while in their teens.

The third wave muscle car will be electric. see article above. Thanks sooners.

So feck the boat? get a plane?

[weebles]

[weebles2]

[Seamajor]

Keep em coming. Cool thread

[GranpaP]

John Wayne (as McQ) drove this beautiful and rare Brewster Green 73 Trans-Am through the streets of Seattle.

A vehicle worth well over $75,000 in today's market.




Back then, it was just a car to wreck while filming a movie.
The Trans-Am seen in the movie was intentionally wrecked.

[GranpaP]

I owned one these Mach 1 cars painted in Azure Blue

At the cabin in Nanoose Bay.



On my way to work in Alberta. Mount Norquay in the back.

[weebles2]

A Bassani-X some SLP LM1's with a welded IN full length subframe and your neighbors will love ya

[Sargent Smellibitz]

Seems kind of pointless...in that environment..

Just sayin'

[weebles2]

[GranpaP]

Seems kind of pointless...in that environment..

Just sayin'

I leave the hilly and windy roads of Vancouver Island for the straight and flat roads of Alberta every spring.
I leave Alberta and return to Victoria every fall. The Mustang is definitely at home on these types of roads.
I have no choice but to cross over the Rocky mountains and I always stop in Banff for a coffee and a beaver tail.
I would own an AWD vehicle if I lived in a mountainous region.

[Sargent Smellibitz]

Seems kind of pointless...in that environment..

Just sayin'

I leave the hilly and windy roads of Vancouver Island for the straight and flat roads of Alberta every spring.
I leave Alberta and return to Victoria every fall. The Mustang is definitely at home on these types of roads.
I have no choice but to cross over the Rocky mountains and I always stop in Banff for a coffee and a beaver tail.
I would own an AWD vehicle if I lived in a mountainous region.

Furry muff (slang for fair enough).

[Skipper]

[Sargent Smellibitz]

Where's Daisey kittens?

I need some eye candy. Asian chicks are hot af.

[Seamajor]

Like Shen Li?

[Skipper]

This is more your style

[Seamajor]

Way more your style. Sad your finger stinks. The mod here must appreciate the child photo you posted. Y’all must be on the same wavelength

[weebles2]

[GranpaP]

No EVs for me, thanks.

This Robocop (1987) advertisement introduces the 2043 6000SUX luxury-muscle automobile.





I hadn't seen this clip in years... stalling tactics, the art of negotiation and a fully-loaded 2043 6000SUX.
Reminded me of Trump in the 2020 election. (starts @ 0:30).

[weebles2]

[weebles2]